ekkoBSD 1.0 BETA1B Released

ragedev writes "Michael J. Denton, Public Relations for ekkoBSD, has announced the latest BETA release of the ekkoBSD Operating System to the public today. The new Operating System currently supports the ia32 (most PC's) platform, and will be followed soon with sparc64 and Pegasos II PPC support."

Re:Echo

[RevAaron]

Good christ man, that was horrible. I don't mean like "lame, but admittedly funny as hell," but I really mean, "wow, that was retarded."

What kind of sound does death make? Even more abstract and non-extant, what is the sound of one OS dying?

"Linux? Is that pronounced Lee's nux? You know, like the sound of Lee's nuts banging together?"

Re:Echo

[Kethinov]

What kind of sound does death make? Even more abstract and non-extant, what is the sound of one OS dying?

Horrible screams of pain echoing because no one's there to hear them? Yeah it's pretty bad. One of those things where you would have had to be there to appreciate it... only in this case you would have had to have been hearing my thoughts at the time I thought it to appreciate it because it's becoming less funny now, even to me ;)

BSD needs better driver support and more software before I'll use it :(

Re:Echo

[RevAaron]

Well, I certainly didn't mean to sound like a dick, but yeah. I bet it would've been funny if someone said to me outloud, especially if it were the middle of a late night nerding session and I was kind of drunk or just sleep deprived. :)

less funny to you? I hope I didn't wreck it for you... :/

I personally have no problems with drivers, but I am a pretty vanilla guy from that standpoint. I can't say I like Linux much more than BSD, but I only use Linux on my file server because it happens to suck the least

Re:Echo

[Kethinov]

I'm a Gentoo/Knoppix guy with a touch of Win2000 for games and Kazaa. I, and all my nerd friends, believe that BSD is a superior way to design an operating system, but it's tragic lack of external hardware and software support make it virtually unusable as a desktop. Linux, however, is a decent desktop for the computer-literate user, so I'll stick with it until they port MacOSX to x86 ;)

Re:Echo

[RevAaron]

I am a very literate computer user, but that has nothing to do with whether I will use Linux or not. My problem is how closed most OSes are, including Linux and Windows. I do not mean closed in the sense of OSS/FSF but in the way apps, systems, and the user interacts with eachother. OS X is better in this respect, but it doesn't take it to the level I expect. Future Windows may improve, depending on how .NET is woven into the mesh.

For me, an OS should have the seamless interop, and I the user and develo

Re:Echo

[larry bagina]

lee-nux. rhymes with "kleenex".

The real question: does "linus" rhyme with "penis" or "vaginas"?

Wow!

[Anonymous Coward]

How did that title make it through the lameness filter?

Something doesnt add up

[mnmn]

So why another fork really? Security? You got OpenBSD, a standard OS, relatively well-known in the security circles and affiliated with many major security projects. Many VPN clients are benchmarked against this OS. Stability? yahoo and ftp.cdrom.com use FreeBSD. Can you convince us you can beat that? Extentions? Linux and NetBSD have numerous ports. Linux is used on many mainframes and microcontrollers as standard OS.

So all I need to know is why should ekkoBSD exist?

I'm concerned because I'm an OS buff, have used Plan9 and Xenix and Linux on a dreamcast. I'm just not sure I along with so many other alternative OS users should take this one seriously beside the reasons you've listed. If it is just a pet project for yourself... thats cool. We'll just go back to the BSD.

Re:Something doesnt add up

[BrookHarty]

So all I need to know is why should ekkoBSD exist?

Because Rick Collette wanted too? Mostly he didnt like the politics on OpenBSD. So he forked, all power to him.

I know many BSD users who switched to Gentoo because it had better driver support, and the 2.6.x kernel is great for the desktop. Its nice to see BSD and Linux developers start working on both platforms, and playing nicely.

Re:Something doesnt add up

[RLiegh]

"So all I need to know is why should ekkoBSD exist?"
Perhaps to shut up all the people asking for free OpenBSD iso images?

Re:Something doesnt add up

[zangdesign]

So all I need to know is why should ekkoBSD exist?

I used to ask the same thing - then I realized the correct answer is: why not? Even if all it does in it's entire lifetime is make five or six people happy then it has accomplished something.

Damn. I hate when I get feeling all happy with the world.

Why?

[Leroy_Brown242]

Even after looking at the web site, I don't see the point. Is it supposed to be a user friendly BSD?

As a default installation, ekkoBSD gives you an E-Mail server, Web Server, ssh, and several other services that would normally need to be added and secured.

This just sounds like bloat to me. Although, if you can pick a configuration you want, and have it update and patch automaticaly, that might be nifty. I can't see all that many BSD/*NIX users who want a web server installed by default though.

Re:Why?

[RLiegh]

"Is it supposed to be a user friendly BSD?"

Judging by the fact they still use OpenBSD's installer (with its' fucked up lack of proper partitioning tools like cfdisk), I think the answer to that question is a resounding "Fuck No!".

Re:Why?

[the morgawr]

FYI, OpenBSD would have a better installer if the requirement wasn't that the ENTIRE install fit on a single floppy. (look at what freeBSD did with just 2) As it is that floppy is almost entirely full (to the point that adding and extra sentence puts it over the line).

There was a project by some frech grad students to make a CD-based GUI installer. Don't know what the status is though. Check it out [gobie.net]

I see your point, maybe you should try

[RLiegh]

switching to Macintosh?

active?

[endx7]

Pretty much -all- of the commits I've seen had to do with syncing with the OpenBSD tree. Just how much code has the ekkoBSD project itself written?

Another BSD to try

[Bunyip Redgum]

I wonder if it will work on this Toshiba laptop - OpenBSD is fine and so is NetBSD, but I had a problem with FreeBSD - network driver wouldn't work.

Another bsd will give us more choice, so good luck to them.

OOOH, OOHH -- let me download it....

[utlemming]

And why would any sane Free/Open/Net-BSD user want to switch? I thought that the idea behind OpenBSD is that nothing is enabled by default and that if you want it, you enable it yourself. Besides, I don't know if I like the idea of one man directing development -- when one man answers the FAQ in first person, that is mildly disturbing. Further, how it is any different from DragonflyBSD? And trying to make BSD cooler, and more like Linux I think is a mistake.

Re:OOOH, OOHH -- let me download it....

[mezz7]

Further, how it is any different from DragonflyBSD?

Why don't you check over at www.dragonflybsd.org ? It's a big difference from all other BSDs' goal.

Fractures

[nurb432]

While people may be entitled to do their own thing, fracturing the community only breeds confusion and slows advancement, both technically and politically ( i.e. market )

Look at the Linux camp, part of the problem of adoption is the convoluted nature of it. Its hard to take something serious when you have TOO many unstable options.. ( unstable in the sense if they will be around tomorrow, and support you.. ) It makes rational decisions tenuous at best.

A better choice would be to make the 'improvements' available to the main BSD projects, as we don't need things watered down any more then they already are ( personally think the 3 major forks should be re-combined so we can all benefit from each others work, not have a bunch of pet-projects running around )

Same goes for Linux.. there needs to be predictiable consistency in business.

Re:Fractures

[KrispyKringle]

Yes, let's look at the Linux camp. Despite BSD's far longer history, far greater spread among those first on the Internet, including major corporations, government contracters, federal agencies, and education, despite, in my and many others' opinions, being more technologically advanced, BSD hasn't got nearly the adoption that Linux has.

Fracturing per se is not good. But wider adoption is. Being `cool' is. If people want a new distro, so be it. I honestly don't see how it can hurt. If it sucks, no one w