OpenBSD 6.0 Released (sdtimes.com) 94
LichtSpektren writes: Version 6.0 of the free operating system OpenBSD has just been released. This release features much improved hardware and armv7 support, a new tool called proot for building software ports in an isolated chroot environment, W^X that is now strictly enforced by default, and removal of official support for Linux emulation, usermount, and systrace. The release announcement can be read here. The release is OpenBSD's 40th release on CD-ROM and 41st release via FTP/HTTP.
The best feature is the lack of systemd. (Score:5, Funny)
The best feature is the lack of systemd.
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the dipshit here is you. Linux system logins are secured over network by code written by OpenBSD team. OpenBSD runs on mobile devices to multi-CPU servers. Armv7, Sparc64, Base install of OpenBSD includes hardened web, proxy, mail, name, packet filter and private netwoking. And with pledge(2) OpenBSD is about ten years ahead of Linux in internal process security.
Educate your ignorant self you fucking twat: https://www.openbsd.org/60.htm... [openbsd.org]
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Re:The best feature is the lack of systemd. (Score:5, Informative)
BSDs are actually attempting to copy the new Linux network code, since it's years ahead of the BSDs.
Hmm, that must be why Netflix and WhatsApp run FreeBSD (Netflix alone being responsible for over 30% of of US Internet traffic and able to saturate multiple 40GigE links from a single server with SSL) and why Facebook posted a job advert for a Linux kernel dev a few months ago with the goal of 'making the Linux network stack competitive with FreeBSD within 5 years'.
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The EU is dying (Score:1, Interesting)
It is official; Surveys now confirm: The EU is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered EU when Apple CEO Tim Cook described the power grabbing supranational's investigation of its Irish tax affairs as "political bullshit". Coming close on the heels of the EU centralized tax identification number, their attempt to subsume the taxation rights of sovereign states is now clear for all to see. The EU is collapsing in complete disarray, as dead in the water as one of Merkel's drowned migra
Re:The EU is dying (Score:4, Funny)
Fact: The EU is dying
And THAT, my friend, is directly attibutable to the spread of systemd.
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The EU is dying
So is my wife, now that her hair begins to gray. What do they use, do you know?
Good Heavens! (Score:3)
OpenBSD? Good Heavens! It's still around?
What have you used it for lately?
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I'm using it right now for a personal http/minecraft/cctv server. I like how minimal the install is. You get a base OS and then add the packages and customize the scripts as needed. I don't need 30 included text editors that are all terrible and 10,000 libraries that all need weekly security patches.
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I'm using it right now for a personal http/minecraft/cctv server. I like how minimal the install is. You get a base OS and then add the packages and customize the scripts as needed. I don't need 30 included text editors that are all terrible and 10,000 libraries that all need weekly security patches.
Which exactly what has 30 included text editors and 10,000 libraries that need weekly security patches.
You suffer from lying for anything that doesn't have systemd. Y'all are starting to look pertty folish at this point.
I'll be checking back for your list that you are going to provide for me. I'll even allow you to admit you were exaggerating, and cut down those 10 thousand libraries that need weekly updates to say, 5 thousand.
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servers in my domains, been doing so since 2001. Great general purpose OS for people that value stability and security and non-bloat
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If she becomes an OpenBSD Wizard because of her condition, the world will be a better place. It will be like Homeland but with computers and schizophrenia.
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Been using it since 2005 as my net gateway. Runs a bunch of services and provides net to the home. Never had a problem. Upgrading every release, twice a year like clockwork.
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Been using it since 2005 as my net gateway. Runs a bunch of services and provides net to the home. Never had a problem. Upgrading every release, twice a year like clockwork.
That's exactly how Grandma does it.
Re:Good Heavens! (Score:5, Insightful)
Been using it since 2005 as my net gateway. Runs a bunch of services and provides net to the home. Never had a problem. Upgrading every release, twice a year like clockwork.
That's exactly how Grandma does it.
As you get older you will learn that grandma was a lot smarter than you thought.
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^^^ This. Mod up. I burnt through my points already.
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OpenBSD? Good Heavens! It's still around?
What have you used it for lately?
Let's see: simple web server, firewall, laptop, firewall, router, secure storage, firewall, another laptop, home computer, router, firewall, security console, monitoring and I think I forgot a couple...
OpenBSD is rock solid and a pleasure to use. Try it, you may like it.
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OpenBSD is rock solid and a pleasure to use. Try it, you may like it.
It's also a pleasure to develop for. The man pages are a joy. You can just man dev files and get the kernel documentation. Fantastic!
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Yes, still very much around.
I use it daily for most of my networking tasks. I use it running as a VM as a virtual router and IPSEC tunnel endpoint as it uses so few resources, so small and compact to install, and it's IPSEC configuration is so much easier than many others.
e.g. https://www.quernus.co.uk/2015... [quernus.co.uk]
-Matt
R.I.P. VAX (Score:5, Informative)
Linux binary compatibility, too (Score:2)
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who used it? Most the major desktop and server software people use on Linux runs on OpenBSD.
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That's a strange thing to say to a Unix sys admin who is older than Unix.
I have nostalgia for useful things but this Linux compat thing was useless for years, the usual open source wares run without it and it wasn't maintained
Re:R.I.P. VAX (Score:5, Funny)
So they're an anti-VAXer now?
I for one (Score:1)
I for one haven't used OpenBSD, but I am happy that its still around and kicking. There are people who are using it every day, and I'm happy that they are getting a new version. I'm a longtime Linux user, and I know that you get a better ecosystem when you have more operating systems around. Its when not everyone does the same thing, that you get really neat stuff that you can't easily get in one system or another, and then its more work to implement somewhere else, but lets users and developers of other
This will be the last OpenBSD release on CD (Score:1)
This will be the last OpenBSD release on CD, future releases will be internet only. Get 'em while they last....
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160901090415
http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#60f
Last on CDs (Score:1)
This release is the last on the CDs. Make sure to order for the art experience! ;)
Re: No song for this release? (Score:1)
The lumberjack song?
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Get busy. Or else Axl will record it and take your monies.
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Bee-Ess-Dee!
It's on your site
Bee-Ess-Dee!
It's based on 4.4-Lite
Bee-Ess-Dee!
It's a free download
Bee-Ess-Dee!
Watch the penguin esplode!
Order the CDROM from Walnut Creek. (Score:2)
I'm heading right over to Walnut Creek to order the CDROM! In two weeks I'll be installing this puppy...
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I'm heading right over to Walnut Creek to order the CDROM! In two weeks I'll be installing this puppy...
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Walnut Creek! Ha, you mixed up FreeBSD and OpenBSD (not to mention it has been closed for years, as far as I know).
Use the OpenBSD Store instead. [openbsdstore.com]
Since this is the last CD release, yes, I think it's worth ordering it. It's going on a special shelf with all the other CDs I have collected over the years...
Linus and Theo in a pissing contest (again) (Score:5, Informative)
Two things caught my eye in the release notes:
Security improvements:
* Remove systrace.
* Remove Linux emulation support.
Theo has some cool slides about "Pledge" that replaced systrace. Slide 3 has this "gem":
"Loudmouth Linus"
http://www.openbsd.org/papers/... [openbsd.org]
Note: NSFW
That was a response to Linus saying "the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys."
http://www.zdnet.com/article/l... [zdnet.com]
Ouch.
Wow, not even the alternative OS's are free from drama -- sad to see Linus (Linux) and Theo (OpenBSD) having to resort to name calling over "best practices" about security.
Theo might be getting the last laugh though:
http://www.openbsd.org/papers/... [openbsd.org]
http://www.openbsd.org/papers/... [openbsd.org]
I guess if name calling helps make the OS's better so be it. :-)
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What some people don't seem to understand is:
- name calling happens in business to, all the time.
- but OpenBSD and Linux development happens in the open
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Oh come on, Linus and Theo are both very well known for trolling other people relentlessly... That's part of the fun of these two characters...
Until you find yourself their target, that is.
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I think Linus said it quite well at Debcon '14 (IIRC), when an audience member said that he was extremely disappointed with Linus and others, because of the childish name-calling and bickering.
Basically, Linus' stance is that he doesn't care if he offends people, he speaks his mind on issues, the way he sees them. It's much better to be direct and maybe a bit abrasive.
From what I've read, Theo has pretty much the same philosophy. If he thinks something is bullshit, he'll damn well tell you, and not always i
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Whoa, calm down.
> Every fucking release has mountains of errors flaws holes and bugs.
So does every OS. There is no "magic code" where there are zero bugs.
> https://www.openbsd.org/errata... [openbsd.org]
I count 25 issues. Doesn't look like a "mountain" to me.
> If your software was in control of nuclear missles you would have killed everyone twice.
And what's the bug count for the Linux kernel or GNU/Linux system?? Compared to OpenBSD, Linux is insecure out-of-the-box.
> if your compiler has a bug and there
Netcraft confirms it... (Score:1)
BSD is dying.
Why are there so many trolls on this one? (Score:1)
Leave OpenBSD alone!!
Love it! (Score:2)
Packaging system? (Score:2)
I should give this OpenBSD Linux a spin. Is this distro Debian or Redhat based? What packaging system does it use. Would that be DEBs or RPMs or did they choose something different?