FreeBSD 9.3 Released 77
First time accepted submitter k4w0ru writes "The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE. This is the fourth release of the stable/9 branch, which improves on the stability of FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE and introduces some new features.
Some of the highlights: ZFS bookmarks, OpenSSL 0.9.8za, OpenSSH 6.6p1, SNI, BIND 9.9.5. For a complete list of new features and known problems, please see the online release notes and errata list.
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There is no alternative, with a license compatible with BSD.
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It wasn't done at the time of testing. Besides, it's not recommended for use on non OpenBSD systems yet.
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It's not recommended for use on any system yet.
Re:LOL (Score:5, Informative)
LibreSSL is not even a mature project. FreeBSD doesn't change things on a whim... well sometimes they do but they warn users like 2 years in advance:
Dropping GCC for Clang
putting LZMA into the base system (thereby screwing up everyone upgrading from 8.x to 8.3 and beyond)
Changing all the version numbers in the source code for no damn reason.
Haven't used FreeBSD in years. (Score:1)
Will it run well on an ARM based TV Stick / BOX ?
Re:Haven't used FreeBSD in years. (Score:5, Informative)
It is a "Tier 2" — so there are no official builds for it, for example.
It is a "Tier 1" for NetBSD [netbsd.org], so you may have better luck there. They even distinguish between "ARM evaluation boards" (evbarm [netbsd.org]) and "StrongARM based Windows CE PDA machines" (hpcarm [netbsd.org]). I'm sure, OpenBSD is similar in this regard, but I'm tired of copy-pasting links...
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It does seem odd to have non-PC ports, since FreeBSD basically began life as a 386BSD fork. NetBSD and OpenBSD are for more CPU agnostic over their history.
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Huh? NetBSD was a 386BSD fork as well.
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ARM is a Tier 2 architecture for FreeBSD so I wouldn't get my hopes up too far, but you might get lucky.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_... [freebsd.org]
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It runs well on Atom. I'm running mini-dlna, samba, apache, dns for about 8W. SSD for OS, 2.5" HD for data.
FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 7 09:11:52 EDT 2013
root@merlin.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MERLIN amd64
CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800 @ 1.86GHz (1866.77-MHz K8-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x30661 Family = 6 Model = 36 Stepping = 1
Features=0xbfebfbff
Features2=0x40e39d
AMD Features=0x20100800
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An Atom is not ARM. How exactly does that have any relevance to their question?
upgrade of stable (Score:3, Informative)
9.2 EOL has been moved to the end of the year allowing a longer migration period for those still running the stable 9 branch. .. as expected ..thanks BSD.
I'm running 10 with zfs-on-boot in production. working excellently
For the usual knockers, give it go ! - though i do admit that non-tier-1 such as ARM, could pose challenging.
like all choices, fit for purpose.
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za - the South African release?
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Yes, why can't they use alphabetically-sequenced Alliterative Animal names, or maybe choose selections in no particular sequence from an unordered set such as large cat species?
Sure, they could be clearer, but they're very far from the worst version naming out there.. Count your b
What is BSD good for? (Score:2)
So I am honestly asking, what is BSD good for. I presently use CentOS and I am perfectly happy with it but for some reason BSD has a magical "hard core" allure. So what I should ask is: what excuse do I need to use it?
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It is good for.. a lot of stuff.
I use it because it does what I expect it to do.
There is a reason the private sector uses it. Some people use it because they are geeks.
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I switched to FreeBSD after 1 year or so of using numerous Linux distros. Linux feels like relatively organised chaos, FreeBSD simply feels organised, there's a consistency to the latter that appeals to people not looking for bleeding edge programs.
My main focus is OmniOS these days but whenever I jump back to FreeBSD I feel completely at home, ZFS, jails, ipfw, ugidfw etc. Can't help but feel Linux is rather esoteric, that feeling just doesn't exist with FreeBSD, simplicity and consistency are the rule of
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Re:What is BSD good for? (Score:5, Insightful)
So I am honestly asking, what is BSD good for. I presently use CentOS and I am perfectly happy with it but for some reason BSD has a magical "hard core" allure. So what I should ask is: what excuse do I need to use it?
Three reasons I personally can think of. First, NetBSD specifically is a fork intended to run on basically anything with a microprocessor. CentOS will run on x86 hardware, and in the form of Pidora and similar, runs on ARM. Try it on an Itanium or SPARC or PowerPC Mac, and things get a smidge more interesting.
Second, ZFS. Now cue those who believe that file system nirvana is found in btrfs or ReiserFS or HFS+, but I'm a huge fan of ZFS as a file system. If you're like me, you'll be using BSD in the form of one of its descendants, like FreeNAS or NAS4Free, where ZFS makes lots of other things much easier.
Finally, the license. I'm neither a programmer nor a recompiler so my use of BSD licensed software is essentially identical to my use of GPL software ('free as in beer', with the occasional bug report). For purists and programmers, there is a difference in what is and isn't allowed under the respective licenses.
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commercially, the bsd style licensing favors it's usage in nested or black box items. i think my apple airport extreme is netbsd inside. the gpl makes people share. sometimes that detrimental to your business model.
The openbsd packet filter PF, now also default in freebsd is good value. adding to popularity of monowall and pfsense.
bsd's make great infrastructure servers. and generally have low resource overheads. even includes a linux compat layer so you have run linux apps.
firewalls, routers, time, dns, ma
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Second, ZFS
From what I've read about ZFS, it sounds like it comes from science fiction. Built-in snapshots and copy-on-write, are you kidding me? Too bad there's nothing comparable in Linux. Well, there is btrfs, but it is not stable last I heard. Why can't they just port ZFS to Linux?
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Maybe I am just missing your /humor tag, but I thought the ZFS on linux thing had been taken care of years ago.
http://zfsonlinux.org/ [zfsonlinux.org]
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No humor, I really thought it was not available. Is it stable? Why did the parent list it as a reason then?
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It's stable enough for general use, but maturity counts for a lot with filesystems, especially when they're as complex as ZFS. It's also a third-party add-on rather than an official part of the OS which does raise some issues.
Conversely it's practically the default on FreeBSD, and it's been available since 2008.
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+1
I am happy that this 9.x release occurred for the people who need it, but the 10.x version will install, out of the box, with ZFS root straight out of the box.
Either way, you don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict that your favorite OS + ZFS is a big step forward.
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One other thing I really like is how they use the Makefiles as a package manager, and how the Makefiles themselves are under version control. It's a really elegant solution, basically they created Debian's apt without coding anything, using only existing tools.
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Not really - ports doesn't even have a *concept* of upgrading, it's just uninstall/reinstall and hope you can work out how to handle all the dependencies. This is why FreeBSD's got so many tools for managing them - portupgrade, portmanager, portmaster, all with their own little and not so little quirks.
We do have an apt-alike these days, in the form of pkgng [freebsd.org]. pkgsrc also has pkgin [pkgin.net].
Licensing does effect end users (Score:1)
I don't code and rarely recompile. But I do take an interest in licenses since I find it has an effect in both my user experience and also my interaction with the community. This is what users need to understand.
I buy older cars rather than BMW because I don't want to have to find an authorised garage and pay the premium to decode the onboard computer for the repairs. Likewise, a difference in license can make a difference. In linux vs BSD there are probably some difference which I tend to summerise in my h
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The largest difference between the two platforms is the capability of ZFS - rock solid for years on one and sort of coming out of alpha on the other.
A second reason is you can use really crappy old hardware as a test box for it and it still works - for instance I ran it on a retired file server with IDE drives for a while to learn how to use it and it ran with far more speed than I expected.
Re:What is BSD good for? (Score:4, Interesting)
If you are happy with CentOS, use it. We are not like Linux people, we are not out to convert you. We are not hoping you see the one, true way. I have never understood the concept where people are happy with a solution or product, and they actively seek out something else.
For me, I was a Linux user goign back to 1992; I dumped it in favor of FreeBSD in 1999 and never looked back.
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Mac is the CEO's hot, airhead secretary (AA) who drinks double mocha lattes with extra cream and thinks her magnetic bracelet will cure her cold.
Windows is the fuckup team member (nephew of the chairman of the board) whose output is so bad that build scripts were developed to automatically remove his code.
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I understand the concept. By getting other people excited about your favorite OS / band / TV show / game, you increase the likelihood that people will want to bother with continuing to make it.
There are plenty of projects that exist because they scratch the author's itch, and will continue to be maintained even if their authors were the only person in the world using them. Something as big as a Linux distro, or enormous as an entire OS like one of the BSDs, likely needs a certain user base to make it worthw
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In addition to Voyager529's response above, another major BSD is OpenBSD, which focuses on security.
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Well:
the chance not needing to start up many services to have a modern *Nix*Free*Li*net* OS
that is running like a quick, responsive machine, three generations older than the one needed for CentOS.
The "Free" in FreeBSD - is for Freedom: we choose what services our machines run, no fucking installer.
The "Free" in FreeBSD - is for OptIn not to be Opted in by default.
And the BSD in FreeBSD - stands for structure, clean, deterministic behaviour, not that clutter a Linux Distribution is built uppon
(have a look at
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I suspect the primary use for FreeBSD is a development platform for operating systems such as Darwin and others. An average user is not expected to touch it, even though a device in your pocket or your closet may be running a piece of FreeBSD.
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In general, BSD's tend to exhibit a quality over quantity mentality that attracts a certain group of people.
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When exactly did "honestly" become a synonym for living under a rock? This question comes up on almost every thread where FreeBSD is mentioned, though granted this is barely more often than its major releases.
The first answer in every such thread for years now is always ZFS, but actually this just disguises how many people have been using it for years or decades and just plain like the way FreeBSD does things even if nine out of ten, or ninety nine out of a hun
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Give me BIND or give me... well, nothing. BIND of GTFO.
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FreeBSD 10.x comes with unbound instead of bind, however this change is likely not done in the 9.x series because it would be a large change that would go against POLA (the principle of least astonishment). FreeBSD tries to keep binary compatibility and a consistent base system throughout a Release-Branch.
This basically means 9.x and lower will stick with BIND whereas from 10.x onward the base system will come with unbound instead. Also i seem to recall there are efforts underway to replace the basesystem s
2014 is the Year of the BSD Desktop! (Score:2)
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