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NetBSD and Google's Summer of Code 15

ruipaulo writes "When Google announced the "Summer of Code", its program designed to introduce students to the world of open source software development, the NetBSD Project understood the value of this project and entered as a mentoring organization. Over a period of two weeks, students researched the list of possible projects and discussed their proposals on the public mailing lists and in private with developers and other users alike. After evaluating over 100 distinct applications, the NetBSD Foundation is now pleased to announce the list of projects that have been chosen. See the associated press release for all the details."
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NetBSD and Google's Summer of Code

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 26, 2005 @06:02PM (#12916256)
    A shocking report from Google CEO Steve Google indicates that Summer is on the way out.

    "We really don't see this whole summer thing lasting much past September," says Steve, but our new 'Autumn of Some More Code' project should be ready by October at the latest."

    When asked if Summer might be back next year, Steve Google declined comment.
  • Dear Submitter, (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 26, 2005 @06:33PM (#12916426)
    as a regular Slashdot reader, and maybe a subscriber to the aforementioned site and its services, I expect that you are more than familiar with the style and typical content of the stories that are carried on this worthwhile service.

    You will also be familiar I am sure with the attitude adopted to 'dupe' stories which seem too similar to those preceding the one's more recently posted.

    You may have noticed that the summary containing the links to articles ask questions of the audience, and sometimes propose argumentative points that can then be discussed by Slashdot readers. More often, this becomes fractured and tangential, and nested comments move a great distance from parent posts. That's a feature of Slashdot, I'm sure most of us wouldn't have it any other way.

    This brings me to the small matter of your submission: You tell us what Google's Summer of Code is. There have been a lot of stories about it, one just yesterday covered the finalisation of the projects that will be worked on by students and mentors.

    You tell us that students have spent 2 weeks deciding on what to do, and that NetBSD was an option. Can you explain why this is new? It may be of moderate interest to some, but is it exciting? Will it generate discussion?

    You conclude by linking to only one 'article', and I am at pains to call it that as it is more accurately the raw materials which have yet to be made into an article for publication. It's a press release, and you say so right in the summary. They have their place, and sometimes that's in summaries, but I feel that they are ill designed to be an entire subject of a summary. One reason press releases aren't suited to being treated as articles is their blandness.

    From TFA: Hubert Feyrer said, "Having to choose only 8 proposals out of over 100 was tough. We, the developers, had to evaluate each individual application based on a number of criteria, such as feasibility of the proposed project, ability and experience of the student in the research area, importance and relevance of the result to the NetBSD Project etc. etc."

    In conclusion Submitter, we, the anonymous cowards of Slashdot, request for you, and indeed all submitters, to try just a little bit harder in your suggestions for content. Give it an angle, make it contentious if it is a contentious matter. If it's a small matter of 'NetBSD receives interest as part of open source coding intiative' it seems very much like a newspaper putting the weather report on page one, above the fold, with a large black and white image of the sky. Yours, Anonymous Coward

    • Re:Dear Submitter, (Score:5, Insightful)

      by torinth ( 216077 ) on Sunday June 26, 2005 @07:51PM (#12916844) Homepage
      If it's a small matter of 'NetBSD receives interest as part of open source coding intiative' it seems very much like a newspaper putting the weather report on page one, above the fold...

      Except that this wasn't on page one, above the fold at all. It was in the targetted, optional, low-traffic BSD section. In that sense it's kind of like putting the weather report on the weather page. Wierd stuff.
  • Other Projects (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Nurgled ( 63197 ) on Sunday June 26, 2005 @06:47PM (#12916535)

    Has there been posted a list of all of the accepted projects for all organisations yet? I was trying to find it on the mailing list but it doesn't seem that it has been announced yet. I'm curious to see what kinds of things people are going to be working on.

    • Re:Other Projects (Score:4, Interesting)

      by macshit ( 157376 ) * <.snogglethorpe. .at.> on Sunday June 26, 2005 @07:24PM (#12916716) Homepage
      There was a bit of a scandal on the debian mailing lists about this -- some people thought it would be cool for debian to participate, but apparently when they contacted google about it, google replied "ha ha, too late!!"

      It seems that essentially the guy in charge picked those projects he liked, and the public notice was more for appearance's sake than anything else ("Please apply from 3 to 3:05 am on a sunday morning, in the locked disused lavatory in the basement of an undisclosed location. Beware of the tiger.").
      • Re:Other Projects (Score:5, Insightful)

        by MadAhab ( 40080 ) <slasher AT ahab DOT com> on Sunday June 26, 2005 @07:43PM (#12916819) Homepage Journal
        debian coming in late? hard to believe.

        regardless, if you look into this a little further, (like, actually read the linked article), you'll see that few, if any, of the projects are really netbsd-specific. for one thing, considering the amount of cross-fertilization between the BSDs these days, that would be unlikely. but "wide character support in curses" is hardly parochial.

        And, some dummy previous poster was all "what's the google summer of code" and stuff, but there's links at the bottom of the article. whateva.

        • Re:Other Projects (Score:5, Informative)

          by Homology ( 639438 ) on Sunday June 26, 2005 @08:02PM (#12916891)
          debian coming in late? hard to believe.

          One day notice for "external" projects []

          • Re:Other Projects (Score:5, Informative)

            by chrisd ( 1457 ) * <> on Monday June 27, 2005 @12:03AM (#12917891) Homepage
            It was more like 36 hours. And it was enough for the 30+ groups we added. I like debian a bunch, and should we do this again, I'll be pleased to include them.


            • It was more like 36 hours.

              Was that by design, so that only the groups which were on the ball would qualify?
            • Re:Other Projects (Score:3, Insightful)

              by Nimrangul ( 599578 )
              While I can understand trying to limit the number of groups applying, it did seem kinda strange to give such a short notice for anyone interested in this.

              Had you given 3 days I bet you'd have gotten a much larger turn out for proposals, probably would have taken you 3 days to sort through them too.

              Meh, I suppose I would have preferred a technical limitation to groups over a time limitation.

              • Re:Other Projects (Score:1, Interesting)

                by Anonymous Coward
                It wasn't just the time frame. If you looked at the stats given by google for the number of entries to each project and then the final list of how many projects for each mentoring organization, you'll notice something odd. Google loves KDE. The interesting thing is if you further look into KDE, you'll see only a few mentors were chosen several times. Any serious projects to extend/improve the user interface or features were denied. (my wife's kate improvement proposal included)

                Also, the time frame for
  • Yeehaw! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by The Nine ( 320384 ) on Sunday June 26, 2005 @09:09PM (#12917169)
    I'm actually rather excited about this. NetBSD is turning into a damn fine operating system. The 2.0 release was really special. 3.0 is coming up soon (end of July, or that's the plan). Now, thanks to google, the project has a little extra developer muscle for upcoming releases. I really look forward to the near future releases of NetBSD. Hopefully things will just keep getting better!
    • Re:Yeehaw! (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Been using netBSD on my old Macs since version 0.something. Each release has been significantly better than the previous one IMO. THe netBSD community has been amazing to me. Just picked up a Sun Ultra 10 with 2 monitors for $60.00 (WooT!) and I think it will become my next netBSD box...
      • Re:Yeehaw! (Score:2, Interesting)

        by The Nine ( 320384 )
        I'm relatively new to NetBSD, but have really loved my whole experience thus far. I can only take other people's word for the fact that 2.0 was a huge improvement over 1.6, but I can definitely say that 2.0 has been a genuine pleasure for me to use, and I'm in the process of switching most of my boxes over to it. I was more than happy to make a substantial donation when they asked recently. Here's hoping they keep the good stuff coming!

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