Upcoming FreeBSD 5.1 Release Schedule 39
BSDForums writes "FreeBSD Release Engineering Team has posted the schedule for the Release of FreeBSD 5.1 late spring. FreeBSD-5 stable roadmap, announced earlier, outlines the future of FreeBSD-5 stable releases, specifically 5.1 and 5.2."
FreeBSD? I heard it was dead ... (Score:5, Funny)
You guys are slacking off.
Personally, I hope it never dies - I rather like it.
Re:FreeBSD? I heard it was dead ... (Score:1, Funny)
Re:FreeBSD? I heard it was dead ... (Score:5, Interesting)
Infact to the contrary FreeBSD is growing. A couple of years ago BSD was unknown except by the slashdot crowd. Now after Linux quality is begining to go downhill that its getting more noticed. a 5x fold in applications definetly has strainged rpm and yes even apt-get. Depancy problems are still there.
I tried FreeBSD in 99 and did not like it. It was weird and archiac and felt old. Today I love it. The ports are way cool and the bsd crowd ignored the Linux flashiness and focused on stability. Today it paid off and many ISP's in the New York area for example are switching to RedHat to FreeBSD because of the quality and out of box security.
Re:FreeBSD? I heard it was dead ... (Score:1, Insightful)
A couple years ago BSD was known to all but the Slashdot crowd, and most of the Slashdot crowd still was wearing braces.
Re:FreeBSD? I heard it was dead ... (Score:3, Interesting)
BSD can never die
There's more to the picture
Than meets the eye.
Hey hey, my my.
Out of the red
and into the black
You pay for this,
but they give you that
And once you're gone,
you can't come back
When you're out of the red
and into the black.
Linux is gone
but he's not forgotten
Is this the story
of Johnny Rotten?
It's better to burn out
'cause rust never sleeps
Linux is gone
but he's not forgotten.
Hey hey, my my
BSD can never die
There's more to the picture
Than meets the eye.
--Neil Young (almost)
The TODO list... (Score:5, Interesting)
First off, you can see the TODO list [freebsd.org] here. Stuff on this list is supposed to happen before release time.
Also, remember that even though this is -RELEASE, it is not -STABLE. FreeBSD 5.1 will not be part of any stable branch. It is still considered the developmental version. Despite that, it is pretty stable. I haven't seen my machine crash in quite a while.
Re:The TODO list... (Score:2)
Re:The TODO list... (Score:5, Informative)
-RELEASE is the most stable of the three. Only major problems are fixed in this branch such as security issues. This branch really does not change much at all if at all. Of the three branches, this is the one you want to use for production machines.
-STABLE is the 2nd most stable, even though it's name confuses people. It is the development branch between releases. After a release, the -STABLE branch is opened and new features are added and new bugs are fixed. This branch will become the next -RELEASE. The changes are usually very mild but there can be problems.
-CURRENT is where all the development for the next _major_ version is done and it is the least stable. Major changes are made and it might not compile at all for extended periods. It also takes a bit more knowhow to get things working as the docs are not always up-to-date.
With 5.X they have decided to not create a -STABLE branch so that from my guess they can still make major changes and not get as much complaining
Just my 2 cents.
Re:The TODO list... (Score:5, Informative)
This is close, and better than most descriptions I've seen, but there's a few things I'd like to clarify.
-STABLE is not opened from the -RELEASE. On a major revision (eg, the 4.x series), the tree is developed-- usually with a release or two-- and then -STABLE is brought up to a stable release. That's why, at the moment, there are 5.x releases, but -STABLE is still on the 4.x series.
At some point-- probably 5.2-- then -STABLE will be brought up to the 5.x tree, starting at (for example) 5.2.
-RELEASE isn't really a development branch; it's a tag. However, each release does have its security patch branch, such as 4.7-RELENG.
Just great (Score:4, Informative)
FreeBSD 5 was way too flaky on my system.
At least with the ports I can have the benefits of gcc 3.2.2 without if offically being supported. I just installed it a few hours ago and put a whole bunch of alias's in my
Anyway I just did a whole make world in
Just try doing something like this in Linux. Dependancy hell no more. Thank you BSD team.
Re:Just great (Score:2)
Re:Just great (Score:2, Interesting)
It's pretty bad with your system won't boot at all unless you (i'm amazed i found this info at all) tweak the kernel to turn off DMA on the hard drive during boot up).
I had other problems as well. It seems just certain hardware causes problems. Others have no problems. My problems were so severe though, I heart b
Re:Just great (Score:1)
Re:Just great (Score:2)
My main problem was the instant-workstation port. Its a highly recommended port for any desktop user. Its in
However it severly broke my system. Mainly the postfix package and it screwed up X
Re:Just great (Score:1)
CC= gcc32
CXX= g++32
Not sure if I'm missing something, but it worked for me.
Where is etc/defaults/make.conf on FreeBSD 5? (Score:5, Interesting)
For some reason this file was deleted in version 5. There is a
I searched the web and found no information on this. To me this is essential. I am posting here as a last resort.
Maybe I did something wrong when I installed it and yes I did chose to install the ports with make, gcc, etc. A change like this had to be documented.
Re:Where is etc/defaults/make.conf on FreeBSD 5? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Where is etc/defaults/make.conf on FreeBSD 5? (Score:4, Interesting)
It does some like a weird place to put them because I and many others do edit make.conf to pick the fastest ftp sites and consider them default settings contary to whoever made the choice to use it. On a ports distro compiler optimizations and fastest sites is an essential and not just some example. But I guess the decsion was already made even though I think its a dumb one. Since you are a developer and have access to some of the mailing lists, you may want to mention to update the faq and the FreeBSD handbook online. It should of been in the RELEASE-NOTES under changes at least. No execuse for having the simplist things mentioned in it but forget about including make.conf. I searched everywhere and found nothing. I am doing the 5.0 install now and I am curious about other surprises I may encounter.
Thanks again.
Now off to configure the bash shell.....
Re:Where is etc/defaults/make.conf on FreeBSD 5? (Score:1, Informative)
locate make.conf
Re:Where is etc/defaults/make.conf on FreeBSD 5? (Score:1, Informative)
Hey mods! (Score:1, Insightful)
To get to the other side!
Bwahahahahaa!
Whats the matter? Didn't you think that was funny? Well why not? I mean you've been modding up BSD is dead jokes for years so you must think old moldy jokes are funny right? Grow the F up.
It's high time this BSD is dead crap stopped. FreeBSD is living proof time only ages fine code like fine wine. BSD is dead jokes is nothing more than cheap ass trolling, don't reward it.