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A signature I used to see here... (Score:5, Insightful)
"I like paying my taxes. With it i buy civilization."
Re:Spitting nails (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:A signature I used to see here... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:99% - 47% = 51% ?! (Score:1, Insightful)
To paraphrase an old saying: "Democracies fail when the general public learns to vote themselves payments from the government coffers".
I'd put forth that many of the moves by the current administration do see to steer more and more of the US population to become dependent upon govt subsidies, entitlements, and welfare programs.
. Look at the increase numbers on the Food Stamp rolls last few years...that alone is somewhat of a telling number.
Not a good time (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, "Government waste" has become axiomatic, rampant and inevitable, and their only solution to our massive debt is "raise taxes"? We are so doomed.
No one is responsible. No one can be brought to task for all that is bad, wasteful, stupid and useless in government. No one in government cares and no one outside of government has any power to change it.
(To those who will bleat "Vote!": I do vote but the only choices likely to be elected are those thoroughly venal politicians who will continue the irresponsible spending. It is built into the election process that those who are committed to significantly and actually cutting the government spending will never get the big donations necessary to win. The big donors give the big bucks to politicians who will turn the federal faucet in their direction -- not turn it off. )
Re:A signature I used to see here... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, who needs healthcare and education? Damn those elitist educated folk!
Re:A signature I used to see here... (Score:4, Insightful)
And police, fire departments, roads, parks, health inspectors, waste water treatment plants, food safety and labeling standards, etc. You know, the stuff that separates us from wonderful, civilized, government-free places like Somalia.
Re:99% - 47% = 51% ?! (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd put forth that many of the moves by the current administration do see to steer more and more of the US population to become dependent upon govt subsidies, entitlements, and welfare programs.
. Look at the increase numbers on the Food Stamp rolls last few years...that alone is somewhat of a telling number.
You'd have a stronger argument if the rich states hadn't overwhelmingly supported Obama, and the poor states hadn't opposed him.
A tax-the-hell-out-of-California-and-use-the-cash-to-bribe Mississippi strategy is not working when MS hates you.
What's actually going on is simple. city folks demand more of their government, which means they vote for the tax-and-spend party. They think taxing-and-spending is the entire point of the government, so they're perfectly willing to pay high taxes.
OTOH rural folks don't depend on the government, they don't believe the government is trustworthy, thus if you tell them "Obamacare will save you thousands" they probably won't believe you. And if they do believe you they'll vote against you anyway because saving people money is not the government's job.
Re:Spitting nails (Score:4, Insightful)
They try that in Europe. It's called VAT.
Everyone says they hate it, but somehow they manage to collect more in taxes then we do, and still have less anti-tax activism...
Re:A signature I used to see here... (Score:4, Insightful)
Uhh...
You do realize that pretty much everything costs twice what it did 20 years ago without being much better? It's called inflation.
As for civilization building, I suspect that Sergey Brin chose not to build google in a super-low-tax African state because he did not want to be kidnaped, and not being kidnapped requires police, who are paid with tax money.
Re:Fucked up tax code (Score:4, Insightful)
Wait a second, your sister in law has two kids and a husband who works, and you're calling her a welfare mother?
Goddam you are an asshole.
Re:Already filed and sent money (Score:4, Insightful)
I love hearing rich people complain about having to pay society back.