No I am fully aware that systemd targets Linux and OpenBSD is, well, not Linux. But seriously, what's the status of init in OpenBSD? Last time I used it (around 5.2 for some odd sparc servers that didn't support anything else apart from Solaris) it was still/etc/rc.d scripts, and no respawn if a service crashed etc.
If a Poettering-like asshole was detected anywhere near OpenBSD, they would be shot down like an aircraft flying over the White House without clearance.
NetBSD has twm, and that's all that's needed, though an upgrade to fvwm2 is kinda nice. twm is a binary that you get automatically in the base install, from the 406MB iso if you're on an x86 platform.
Which is all well documented in the O'Reilly X11 manual set. (The User's Guide is Vol. 3, the Administrator Guide is Vol. 8)
NetBSD has twm, and that's all that's needed, though an upgrade to fvwm2 is kinda nice. twm is a binary that you get automatically in the base install, from the 406MB iso if you're on an x86 platform.
twm is a Window Manager, not a Desktop Environment. As such, it has no start menu, taskbar, etc, and does not come packaged with a set of apps such as a file manager, print manager, etc. As such you will have a damn tough sell trying to get anyone used to using a DE to convert to a bare WM. If you want to run anything besides a shell command window, you're going to have to install apps which are not a part of twm. DEs come with basic apps.
Many would say twm is a primitive WM at that. The windows have no close, minimize, maximize, and restore buttons. Minimize doesn't even have meaning - there is nowhere to minimize TO. Resizing involves clicking on a resize button before you can drag an edge.
I don't remember the last time I've clicked a window border to resize a window.. Must've been years ago.
There are a lot of people ignorant of Alt + mouse grab, it seems.
(I'm not really fond of TWM myself. There are a lot of better window managers around. Well, almost every window manager around is better than TWM. But I do think that more people should run bare WMs instead of going for the prepackaged KDE/GNOME choice. No need to wait for five to fifteen seconds for the login process to finish then.)
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Does it have systemd? (Score:0)
No I am fully aware that systemd targets Linux and OpenBSD is, well, not Linux. But seriously, what's the status of init in OpenBSD? Last time I used it (around 5.2 for some odd sparc servers that didn't support anything else apart from Solaris) it was still /etc/rc.d scripts, and no respawn if a service crashed etc.
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No, it doesn't have systemd.
If a Poettering-like asshole was detected anywhere near OpenBSD, they would be shot down like an aircraft flying over the White House without clearance.
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No, it doesn't have systemd.
Release notes says it has GNOME 3.16 and since GNOME depends on systemd I guess it must at least have the parts that GNOME depends on?
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NetBSD has twm, and that's all that's needed, though an upgrade to fvwm2 is kinda nice. twm is a binary that you get automatically in the base install, from the 406MB iso if you're on an x86 platform.
Which is all well documented in the O'Reilly X11 manual set. (The User's Guide is Vol. 3, the Administrator Guide is Vol. 8)
Re:Does it have systemd? (Score:2)
twm is a Window Manager, not a Desktop Environment. As such, it has no start menu, taskbar, etc, and does not come packaged with a set of apps such as a file manager, print manager, etc. As such you will have a damn tough sell trying to get anyone used to using a DE to convert to a bare WM. If you want to run anything besides a shell command window, you're going to have to install apps which are not a part of twm. DEs come with basic apps.
Many would say twm is a primitive WM at that. The windows have no close, minimize, maximize, and restore buttons. Minimize doesn't even have meaning - there is nowhere to minimize TO. Resizing involves clicking on a resize button before you can drag an edge.
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I don't remember the last time I've clicked a window border to resize a window.. Must've been years ago.
There are a lot of people ignorant of Alt + mouse grab, it seems.
(I'm not really fond of TWM myself. There are a lot of better window managers around. Well, almost every window manager around is better than TWM. But I do think that more people should run bare WMs instead of going for the prepackaged KDE/GNOME choice. No need to wait for five to fifteen seconds for the login process to finish then.)