by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Friday August 14, 2015 @05:22PM (#50319181)
No, and it never will, it's simply not the BSD way of doing things, nor is there any point, nor is it cobbled together by a bunch of randoms into "distros". BSD is single source and it just works, always has, always will. Linux people who have never actually USED a BSD simply don't understand the concept. That's unfortunate. But since BSD is opensource unix, you can always hack it to do whatever you want:)
As I recall, BSD refers to BSD44 (or BSD v4.4), which I believe is the first version of Berkley Software Distribution [Unix] that was certified did not contain any of the SysV Unix code. Code that the university had obtained from Bell Labs for originally for training purposes. As I recall, there was a huge court battle over this in the 90s. Various pundits claim that if BSD had not been tied up in courts, hackers would not have taken an interest in the Minix clone, Linux. Then again, Linux had quite the
As I recall, BSD refers to BSD44 (or BSD v4.4), which I believe is the first version of Berkley Software Distribution [Unix] that was certified did not contain any of the SysV Unix code. Code that the university had obtained from Bell Labs for originally for training purposes. As I recall, there was a huge court battle over this in the 90s. Various pundits claim that if BSD had not been tied up in courts, hackers would not have taken an interest in the Minix clone, Linux. Then again, Linux had quite the court battle in the 2000s, and I don't remember FreeBSD users jumping through the roof. It takes quite a bit of dedication (e.g. time and desire) to track FreeBSDs -STABLE or -CURRENT. Was quite a bit of fun to compile your own kernel, though. Only one simple text file to read/modify.
As I understand, you can obtain the BSD44 sources if you desire. They are not free, though. You have to pay for shipping and the cost of a 9mm reel or two. So yes, the BSD is important as it shows that all the *BSD distros come from a Sys-V Unix parent.
As far as I know, BSD was not derived from System V but from V7 (via 32V). Early System V releases were based on V7 combined with a few internal Bell Labs systems.
You can get the 4.4BSD-Lite releases as tar.gz file from all over the Internet (use Google to find one) or you could order the BSD archive CD-ROM set from Kirk McKusick (www.mckusick.com). I have not seen a tape distribution offered recently.
The above refers to BSD, but is there any version of BSD that's based on this, as opposed to one of the big 3 - FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD?
The big three -are- all based on 4.4BSD-Lite. OpenBSD forked off NetBSD around 1995. FreeBSD and NetBSD were originally (circa 1993) patched versions of 386BSD, which was based on the Net/2 release, itself intended as an unencumbered version of 4.3BSD. FreeBSD and NetBSD had to re-base their source trees to 4.4BSD-Lite when - as a result of the settlement of the lawsuit in early 1994 - Net/2 was considered tainted. As I recall FreeBSD 2.0 was the first version based on 4.4BSD. Of course the source code of
I know that. However, since then, every distro of BSD has been based either on FreeBSD or NetBSD. Has there been any that wasn't based on either of these, but instead, based on 4.4 itself?
Ok, it's not Free-as-in-beer, but is it Free-as-in-speech? In other words, is it licensed under any of the BSD licenses out there?
I agree w/ the GP - we might as well talk about FreeBSD. Most of the BSD 'distros' out there - DragonFly, Midnight, Ghost, pFsense, et al are based on FreeBSD. Only thing based on NetBSD that I know of is OpenBSD, which has diverged quite a bit since it split. And OpenBSD just has one distro based on itself - I forget the name - the one that was made in order to be
Also, the Minix that Linus originally used, and the Minix of today are completely different - as different as Windows 3.1 and Windows 10. The original Minix 1 was not a microkernel, but today's OS is. You are right that Linux is not a Minix clone, but not for the reason you mention. Also, for the OS-X is BSD crowd, there is an equivalent Android is Linux crowd as well.
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Does it use systemd?
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No, and it never will, it's simply not the BSD way of doing things, nor is there any point, nor is it cobbled together by a bunch of randoms into "distros". BSD is single source and it just works, always has, always will. Linux people who have never actually USED a BSD simply don't understand the concept. That's unfortunate. :)
But since BSD is opensource unix, you can always hack it to do whatever you want
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As I recall, BSD refers to BSD44 (or BSD v4.4), which I believe is the first version of Berkley Software Distribution [Unix] that was certified did not contain any of the SysV Unix code. Code that the university had obtained from Bell Labs for originally for training purposes. As I recall, there was a huge court battle over this in the 90s. Various pundits claim that if BSD had not been tied up in courts, hackers would not have taken an interest in the Minix clone, Linux. Then again, Linux had quite the court battle in the 2000s, and I don't remember FreeBSD users jumping through the roof. It takes quite a bit of dedication (e.g. time and desire) to track FreeBSDs -STABLE or -CURRENT. Was quite a bit of fun to compile your own kernel, though. Only one simple text file to read/modify.
As I understand, you can obtain the BSD44 sources if you desire. They are not free, though. You have to pay for shipping and the cost of a 9mm reel or two. So yes, the BSD is important as it shows that all the *BSD distros come from a Sys-V Unix parent.
As far as I know, BSD was not derived from System V but from V7 (via 32V). Early System V releases were based on V7 combined with a few internal Bell Labs systems.
You can get the 4.4BSD-Lite releases as tar.gz file from all over the Internet (use Google to find one) or you could order the BSD archive CD-ROM set from Kirk McKusick (www.mckusick.com). I have not seen a tape distribution offered recently.
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The above refers to BSD, but is there any version of BSD that's based on this, as opposed to one of the big 3 - FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD?
The big three -are- all based on 4.4BSD-Lite. OpenBSD forked off NetBSD around 1995. FreeBSD and NetBSD were originally (circa 1993) patched versions of 386BSD, which was based on the Net/2 release, itself intended as an unencumbered version of 4.3BSD. FreeBSD and NetBSD had to re-base their source trees to 4.4BSD-Lite when - as a result of the settlement of the lawsuit in early 1994 - Net/2 was considered tainted. As I recall FreeBSD 2.0 was the first version based on 4.4BSD. Of course the source code of
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I agree w/ the GP - we might as well talk about FreeBSD. Most of the BSD 'distros' out there - DragonFly, Midnight, Ghost, pFsense, et al are based on FreeBSD. Only thing based on NetBSD that I know of is OpenBSD, which has diverged quite a bit since it split. And OpenBSD just has one distro based on itself - I forget the name - the one that was made in order to be
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