FreeBSD Announces Contest To Replace Daemon Logo 716
An anonymous reader submits "The FreeBSD core team has announced a public competition to design a new logo to replace the current BSD daemon logo. The new logo will be used on the FreeBSD website, software media labels, printed media, hardware equipment, and more. The winner of the contest will receive $500." It's too early for an April Fool's Joke; according to the contest page, "this daemon character seems cute from somebody's point of view,
but somebody may think which does not suit for the professional
products to indicate that are using the FreeBSD inside."
A True Shame (Score:5, Insightful)
The religious issue I cannot believe actually warrents changing the logo and I see nothing particularly unprofessional about the daemon.
If the winner... (Score:3, Insightful)
So let me get this straight (Score:5, Insightful)
Slippery Slope... (Score:5, Insightful)
Practically, I can see where the horned devil might make certain religious people uncomfortable.
But if you're going down that road, then you might as well steer clear of offending other religions world-wide. That's right, no pigs, camels, or graven image idols, etc.
Consider how many Jews and Muslims have avoided learning Perl because of the offensive beast on the cover of the O'Reilly book!
Re:A True Shame (Score:5, Insightful)
Indeed. As if proof were needed, having a fat penguin as a logo doesn't seem to have done Linux any harm. I fail to see how that could be more professional than a daemon...
MOD parent up! (Score:2, Insightful)
Plus, the Daemon is way cuter than the Penguin or that stupid butterfly.
Re:A True Shame (Score:4, Insightful)
In other words: the logo may not actually represent anything, because it would offend someone. In fact, it cannot even contain the name "FreeBSD," because that is demeaning to the other versions of BSD which are no less free.
Yeah, what's wrong with Beastie? (Score:5, Insightful)
This is truly sad. I can just imagine the new logo being along the same lines as the crap parodied by eNormicom [enormicom.com].
Fark thread (Score:2, Insightful)
Political corectness rears its head. (Score:5, Insightful)
It seems just like Fox changing the name "Best damn superbowl roadshow" to "Best darn superbowl roadshow"
Re:Yeah, what's wrong with Beastie? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:So let me get this straight (Score:5, Insightful)
canned ham spread (eaten in the home)
vacuum cleaners (used in the home)
While I have no real problem with the BSD daemon, to me it doesn't *feel* like a professional branding, and lets face it..no matter what the underlying technology there is something to the image of a product when decisions are made.. just look at Apple for proof of that.
For fuck's sake! (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm sick and tired of everything in the tech world needing to be made palatable to suits and PHBs.
I realize that complaining about it will be about as effective as trying to hold back the tides with a sheet of plywood, but that doesn't mean that we have to like it or accept it quietly.
LK
Why BSD is Better.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Political correctness turning into idiocy (Score:3, Insightful)
If anything, this pondering to non-existant "offended" customers is a sign that a project is diverting its attention from real to imaginary problems. Logical step in a sequence of events that took FreeBSD from the true original to the project it is today.
Re:Religious Issue (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Logo != Mascot (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Slippery Slope... (Score:3, Insightful)
You know, this makes me think. Iran vs USA, which country is the most fanatical, paranoid, religious country?
Sadly Dissapointed... (Score:3, Insightful)
First off towards the religious zealots that have no problem shoving their theology into your face, but will simultaneously raise a stink over your "imagined" alignment.
Second off, towards the Mac dorks with their kneejerk references of "THEY ALREADY HAVE, HAR HAR HAR" and posting links to pics that reference OSX. OSX is NOT FREEBSD. If you really believe that, then you just don't understand the UNIX philosophy. Go back to your art-fetish lickable computer and troll some other forum.
Third off, for squandering the the rebellious merits of the OSS and BSD community to get in bed with big business, which will undoubtedly turn into domination, regulation and corruption.
I have a few more but i think i've stepped on enough toes already. This actually makes me a little bit angry.
Oh, come on (Score:2, Insightful)
I wouldn't want some cartoon devil character showing up on my company's computers either. It looks unprofessional and odd. I work in a real estate office. Would I want to have Bugs Bunny as the boot logo on all the machines in our computer room?
The word "bothering" in this case has nothing to do with the religious aspects and everything to do with the silly image in a professional setting.
Re:Oh, come on (Score:3, Insightful)
. I work in a real estate office. Would I want to have Bugs Bunny as the boot logo on all the machines in our computer room?
If the machines are in your computer room, who is going to see the logo?
Re:Oh, come on (Score:5, Insightful)
Is a stylized window frame logo any better? How about an apple with a chunk missing? Quit trying to make an objection to a devil sound like it is rational. Even if you aren't actually offended and disturbed, you ought to be ashamed for catering to the morons and idiots who are.
Re:Yeah, what's wrong with Beastie? (Score:3, Insightful)
You see, I don't care if the OS has a better market share. It does what I need it to do and it does it well. As it increases its market share and becomes more mainstream, the amount of useless crud that gets added increases and I don't want that because it decreases the security. If I wanted bloat and cute, I would have linux on my servers. If I wanted strong corporate image, I would have solaris on my servers. As it is, I'm a real unix hacker and freebsd is the best out there for my needs and the daemon logo fits in just fine.
Their current page is claiming they aren't ready for new logos yet. Too bad... I was going to submit their old one.
Re:Religious Issue (Score:1, Insightful)
Would you use Nazi Linux (logo: Tux with a swastika armband)? Would you use it at work? Would you try to persuade your boss that it was just a harmless logo, had nothing to do with the actual technical system, and if he didn't like it could he please go fuck himself?
I think not.
You're welcome to like Beastie. The corporate world doesn't, and the FreeBSD maintainers want to court the corporate world. If you don't like what they're doing, hey, nobody's stopping you forking FreeBSD and having a daemon for YOUR logo...
Here are my suggestions :) (Score:3, Insightful)
Or if you still want a daemon, maybe this by Coop [loficustoms.com] will do. I am sure that won't be offensive...
What in the name!? I really really cannot understand it. How can Beastie the Daemon be at all unproffesional? For crying out loud I have a "Dirt Devil" vacuum cleaner in the house! Why would FreeBSD throw away this mascot that is so well entrenched? In a sense it has such a strong "brand identity" already. Do they really want to end-up with something so generic as the NetBSD logo?
Wow I AM a loser, I am taking this way too seriously. I never knew I was so attached to beastie.
Re:Yeah, what's wrong with Beastie? (Score:2, Insightful)
p.s. GWB won the last election because 51% of the voters voted for him. It's that simple.
Re:my entry! (Score:2, Insightful)
I actually tried to make an SVG using inkscape but, damn... vector graphics are a royal PITA. Especially when compared to the simplicity of drawing crappy artwork with my left hand.
Re:Answer (Score:1, Insightful)
(I might add: why the hell are you booting FreeBSD anyway? If you can't afford the electricity to keep it running, you can't be much of an estate agent.)
adam