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DragonFlyBSD Team Interviewed 39

Posted by CowboyNeal
from the getting-to-know dept.
lowks writes "A nice little interview from the ONLamp BSD advocacy page where we get to peer a little into the goings ons and updates as well as plans for DragonFlyBSD. Highlights include the rationale behind DragonFlyBSD and peeks into the current engine as well as goodies planned to be implemented in the future versions. DragonFlyBSD is another flavour of BSD which forked from the FreeBSD 4.x branch not too long ago. It's headed by Matt Dillon, who forged out on his own and started DragonFlyBSD due to technical differences with the FreeBSD team ."
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DragonFlyBSD Team Interviewed

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  • by bhima (46039) <Bhima.Pandava@gma[ ]com ['il.' in gap]> on Saturday July 10, 2004 @11:40AM (#9661054) Journal
    It is just me or are the articles on OnLamp very hit or miss. When the are good, like this one, they are very good & when they are bad I can't even finish them!

    Or I suppose it could be that I'm mildly interested in Dragonfly and I think Matt et all have a strong argument in LWKT.

    Hmmm now I wonder what sort of SMP strategy is used in OS X??

    • by animus9 (765786) on Saturday July 10, 2004 @01:22PM (#9661540) Homepage

      Mac OS X relies on XNU (modified Mach 3.0 + BSD) for SMP. As far as I know, it uses a mutex model (like linux, freebsd, & netbsd).

      Mac OS X SMP [usenix.org]
      • Wow! I go to dinner and an interesting article awaits my return! Thanks!

        It will be interesting to how things evolve...

        I must admit SMP on OS X works OK fine for me and most of my coding experience is for smaller members of the ppc family (4XX) so I have no basis for informed opinion but Dragonfly "feels" like a good idea.

        Best part there is not much keeping off my Power Mac if it really does work!

  • by Anonymous Coward
    If by "technical differences with the FreeBSD core team" you mean "kicked off the team and mailing lists for hostile, inflammatory behavior," then you're right on the money.

    I listened to Dillon's crap on the -current mailing list and elsewhere. 'Technical differences' were the least of the concerns in getting rid of him.

    Sure, he's competent, and he's contributed some great things to FreeBSD over the years, but that doesn't mean he's not a troll.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Then, why Mr. AC, haven't people like David O'Brien , Dag-Erling Smorgav or Poul-Henning Kamp been kicked out of FreeBSD yet? They're as prone to flamewars as Dillon was, probably even more.

      Mike Bouma

    • by bmah (99344)
      Matt is still on some of the mailing lists. I've seen him recently (past several days) involved in some very deep technical discussions.

      I personally think that even if Matt had not lost his FreeBSD commit bit, he might have started DragonFly anyways. DF is an excellent vehicle for trying out some new architectural approaches to problems that are just fundamentally different from FreeBSD 5 was/is doing.
  • New BSD on the block (Score:4, Interesting)

    by CustomFort (643959) <Mark.Reitblatt@com> on Saturday July 10, 2004 @03:00PM (#9662058) Homepage Journal
    It seems like this new DragonFLy BSD project could become very interesting. I have been wondering for a while what their exact purpose was for the split, and I think I like it. Their goal of implementing cleaner and more scalable structures sounds like a worthy one, even if it is a long tem goal.

    Who knows, someday the BSD world might break up lke this:
    OpenBSD is for Routers and firewalls
    NetBSD is for XBox/Toaster/microwave/everything else =P
    FreeBSD is for Servers
    and
    DragonBSD is for SSI Supercomputers or other highly scalable systems.
    • by Homology (639438) on Saturday July 10, 2004 @06:27PM (#9663110)
      Who knows, someday the BSD world might break up lke this: OpenBSD is for Routers and firewalls NetBSD is for XBox/Toaster/microwave/everything else =P FreeBSD is for Servers and DragonBSD is for SSI Supercomputers or other highly scalable systems.

      This might come as a surprise for you, but all of the BSD are general purpose OS, even though they have different focus. There are quite a few OpenBSD servers out there, just as there are quite a few FreeBSD firewalls and routers, and the same goes for NetBSD. NetBSD has even set the TCP speed record over "the pond".

  • Why, always...? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by agraupe (769778) on Sunday July 11, 2004 @01:12AM (#9664694) Journal
    Why is it that, for any BSD article, half of the responses are standard, boring, retarded "BSD is dying" posts. I think it is just a bunch of linux evangelists with massive insecurities, just wanting to ensure that linux stays at the top of the heap when it comes to open-source operating systems. Who says that all competition has to come from Microsoft? It's not like they're amazing to begin with. (For the record: I am a happy Linux user. I tried OpenBSD, and found that I didn't like it. This does not stop me from realizing that some people like it more, and that it may be better for some purposes. At the moment, I am considering giving FreeBSD a try. Generally I'm open-minded towards all operating systems. Yes. Even Windows, to a lesser degree)

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