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FreeBSD 5.2.1 RC Ready For Getting 133

Posted by Hemos
from the get-more-of-it dept.
MobyTurbo writes "FreeBSD 5.2.1 RC is now available, and now can be downloaded from the FreeBSD site and mirrors, or if you are currently running FreeBSD 5.2 (or for that matter some earlier versions) you can simply cvsup to it. The upcoming 5.2.1 release should fix a number of outstanding bugs in the 5.2 release, and this is a chance to make sure those bugs get fixed!"
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FreeBSD 5.2.1 RC Ready For Getting

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  • Portage (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Gunfighter (1944) on Monday February 02, 2004 @07:33AM (#8157413) Homepage
    Given Gentoo's similarities to FreeBSD (i.e. provide the 'recipies' and compile from source), I've always wondered why the Gentoo project didn't use a BSD CVSup system (for the unwashed, the tree is updated using rsync). What are the technical advantages/disadvantages/differences between Portage and BSD's Ports?
    • this is a big tax for the use of a singular tool (modula-3 is a huge compile), especially considering the fact that gentoo runs on non-i386 architectures.

      http://www.cvsync.org/ is a not-yet-mature portable replacement for cvsup written in c.
      • i386 only?

        thx@tungur ~> uname -a

        FreeBSD tungur.knivur.net 5.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 15 21:26:21 CET 2004 root@tungur.knivur.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERI C alpha
        thx@tungur ~> which cvsup /usr/local/bin/cvsup
        ...and I'm using cvsup too.
  • Honest question (Score:5, Interesting)

    by 4lex (648184) on Monday February 02, 2004 @07:45AM (#8157486) Homepage Journal

    I would like to test kernels from time to time, as I test linux distros. Apart from [debian.org] Debian [debian.org], what is the state of bulding familiar systems (with familiar package management, etc) on different kernels, e.g. FreeBSD?

    Is there any possibility to get a Debian-like (or Mandrake-like, why not?) experience with non-linux kernels? I would certainly give them a try... Or are there FreeBSD live-CDs with a hardware auto-recognition comparable with that of knoppix? That would be a nice way to try, too :)

    • Freesbie (Score:4, Informative)

      by Louis Guerin (728805) <guerin@gmxLAPLACE.net minus math_god> on Monday February 02, 2004 @08:08AM (#8157587)
      ... is a FreeBSD-based liveCD. You can find it at www.freesbie.org. I downloaded it awhile ago but haven't yet checked it out, must get onto that. So many distros, so little time. L
      • by Anonymous Coward
        So many distros, so little time.

        Try the attached patch.

        ---time.h.orig
        +++time.h

        -typedef time_t unsigned int;
        +typedef time_t unsigned long long int;
        • ...and watch all your software break.

          (yes, I know the parent post was a joke, but this is something we'll have to face _sometime_ before 2038)

          Seriously, I've been experimenting with using 64-bit time_t's on FreeBSD/ia32 for a while. The base OS seems to be perfectly fine with it, but I've run in to all sorts of problems with software that assumes that sizeof(time_t) <= sizeof(long).
    • You can run Debian userland on the NetBSD kernel:

      http://www.debian.org/ports/netbsd/

      While I applaud the goal of ensuring that the Debian userland is a bit more portable, in the long run it is doubtful that it can be as well integrated as a normal NetBSD system. As someone who uses NetBSD as his preferred platform, I can attest to the growing "Linuxisms" in open source software.

      Chris

    • You could just install FreeBSD and then the Debian port. You can then chroot into a Debian jail. Looks like Debian, smells like Debian, but the kernel is FreeBSD. Would that do? :)

      I've built Linux kernels inside Debian jails on FreeBSD and they're binary identical (as I would have expected, but it was nice to see it work).

      - J

  • A Brief synopsis (Score:5, Informative)

    by the real darkskye (723822) on Monday February 02, 2004 @07:55AM (#8157532) Homepage
    of what has been reported broken in 5.2 and MFC'd to 5.2.1 can be found here [bsdforums.org]

    I just hope I can use my USB mouse with out needing a PS/2 mouse plugged in and my sound works again!
  • by 0xfc (737668) on Monday February 02, 2004 @08:00AM (#8157552)
    I am sure many users of FreeBSD who own computers with multiple processors are eagerly waiting to switch around 5.3. I know I am drooling over better performance but patience is the key. After reading that pdf on the new ULE scheduler, I became even more excited by all the hard work put in by the FreeBSD team. I am still a user of 3.x and mostly 4.x with one 5.x box. I cannot be more pleased with this operating system's stability since 3.4. Two hundred day uptimes are taken for granted with FreeBSD users. Also in 5.x perl was removed! thank you for getting that mess out of the base install. One always had to upgrade it anyway for recent software like spamassassin. Keep putting the FreeBSD stories on slashdot editors, because isp admins run it.
    • Two hundred day uptimes are taken for granted with FreeBSD users.

      I chuckled when I read that, because when I went to upgrade my workstation to 5.2 I did a quick check of the uptime first, almost 200 days. It made me sit back and think "Gee, I never did have to reboot my computer, did I..."

      Checking my 4.x server whenever I thought it needed an upgrade brought about even higher uptimes, generally regulated by central power failure +90minutes until the UPS gave up and the system shut itself down. The only
  • what will be the first 5.x production release? When will it be out?
  • Does this mean we will get another "review" from Eugenia over at osnews.com?

  • Grow up little children, FreeBSD is another OS out there wether you like it or not. Does the fact that its out there bother you? well.. tough, now stfu. Cry to your mommies =)

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