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NetBSD Announces Logo Design Competition 503

Posted by simoniker
from the more-bee-for-your-ess-dee dept.
jschauma writes "The NetBSD Project has announced that it has launched an international competition for the creation of a new logo. There is a cash prize of US $100.00 for the winning entry. The successful logo will also have wide exposure, featuring in all NetBSD material including, but not limited to; the NetBSD.org web site, software media, apparel, and business systems. The competition will close on February 29, 2004. The rules of the competition, submission information and the design brief can be found in the official announcement, which has already spawned some discussion on the netbsd-advocacy and current-users MailingLists." The announcement notes that the current logo is "too complicated... hard to reproduce... [and] has negative cultural, and religious ramifications."
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NetBSD Announces Logo Design Competition

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  • devil? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by nempo (325296) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @08:13AM (#7984115)
    What's wrong with the devil ? Paint the word 'NetBSD' on his belly/chest and we're all set.
  • This is SOOO obvious (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Phekko (619272) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @08:19AM (#7984149)
    The BSD d(a)emon holding a gladiator-like net.
  • Re:Looks fine to me! (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 15, 2004 @08:33AM (#7984228)
    It's the fact that they are taking an event from U.S. history and displaying the soldiers as devils. If this were a political cartoon one could take it to mean that the U.S. are a bunch of evil devils. This is what they meant by cultural ramifications, or at least I'm assuming that's what they meant.
  • Pentium

    It is called "Pentium" because it is the fifth in the 80x86 line. It would have been called the 80586 had a US court not ruled that you can't trademark a number.

    The successors are the Pentium Pro and Pentium II.

    The following Pentium variants all belong to "x86 Family 6", as reported by "Microsoft Windows" when identifying the CPU:

    Model Name
    1 Pentium Pro
    2 ?
    3 Pentium II
    4 ?
    5, 6 Celeron or Pentium II
    7 Pentium III
    8 Celeron uPGA2 or Mobile Pentium III

    The name was chosen because of difficulties Intel had in trademarking a number. It suggests the number five (implying 586) while (according to Intel) conveying a meaning of strength "like
    titanium".

    Intel did not stick to this convention when naming its P6 processor the Pentium Pro; many believe this is due to difficulties in selling a chip with "sex" in its name. Successor chips have been
    called `Pentium II' and `Pentium III'.

    Sorry, the above comments I pirate it off - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pentium

    The last paragraph is more closely related to NetBSD (or all BSDs in general) problem. I read an article somewhere years ago that, Intel actually engaged a consulting firm in order to come out with a name for suitable for the 586. One of the criterias was that it must be something not offensive in any languages spoken worldwide.

    Call it political correctness, but you don't offend anyone if you can help it. Especially a wold class entity doing business worldwide.

    NetBSD, is an entity that transact with people all over the world. People from all walks of life. Personally, I love the BSD daemon, kinda cute.. But I'm sure it is not the OS of choice for some/most religious organization.. Esp. those conservative ones who have yet to discover fire.

    Well, if they decide on a new logo in order not to offend the sensibilities of 'potential' customers, why not indeed?

    Regards all and everyone - peace!
  • Forget Beastie.... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sethadam1 (530629) * <adam@NOsPaM.firsttube.com> on Thursday January 15, 2004 @08:37AM (#7984254) Homepage
    Beastie, although he is really a BSD thing in general, is most associated with FreeBSD. OpenBSD adopted Puff the Blowfish and it is instantly recognizable as obsd. I think NetBSD design submitters ought to choose a new animal - perhaps a stingray, a lobster, a crab, or some other creature that can defend itself - and go for it. Then NetBSD will have some individual recognizable identity to those outside the BSD aware.
  • Re:Looks fine to me! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by dipipanone (570849) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @08:46AM (#7984303)
    It's a devil. Devils are evil.

    Perhaps they might be if they existed outside of the fevered imaginations of religious fundamentalists, but as they are, at most, a metaphor it's hard to see why rational people would be bothered. And why would you try and accomodate the prospective rantings of irrational people? There's no predicting what those could be.

    Cartoon or not, it's a symbol with evil connotations, which some people could feasibly find offensive.

    Rather like the SCO trademark, you mean?

    After all, with your logic, a swastika is just a bunch of lines.

    Not really. A swastika is the symbol of an organization that verifiably eradicated six million jews and similar numbers of gay people, Romany gypsies, etc.

    When people can point to similar empirically verifiable actions done in the name of a little red man with horns, a pitchfork and a pointed tail, I might take this argument seriously.

    Did anyone ever see that episode of Jackass, where a guy dressed in a red devil suit was being assaulted by passers-by, who clearly thought that by punching a guy in a red suit, they were doing battle with the true Prince of Darkness?

    Perhaps Net-Bsd should substitute the face of Saddam or Osama for the devil? That should really get the product shifting off the shelves. (OK then, the FTP servers for the pedants out there.)
  • Re:Looks fine to me! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by siliconjunkie02 (624422) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @09:11AM (#7984429)
    So, what do I get for regularly wearing my FreeBSD T-shirt in Houston? And, I have never had a single word said to me about it...

    So, perhaps you should realize that just because we are in Texas, we aren't a bunch of backwoods religious zealots as you think.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 15, 2004 @09:30AM (#7984542)
    The fact NetBSD thinks they need a new logo, is a good symptom if we want to have better ways to identify and give some credibility to the free and open source projects. But is not enough.
    What's the use of spending hundreds of dollars in a logo contest when then this full-fledge brand new logo is poorly applied in a shabby designed page?
    IMHO, what has to be done is to make an open competition for design offices or anyone who wants and can submit proposals, giving integral solutions for the identity, which would include logo, webpage templates, documents..
    In the architecture field is very common to make 'idea competitions' where many archictectural offices are involved, and at the end the rainbow of proposals is wider and you can surely get a design that fits best the demands (or can even make you realise about needs you didn't).
    So i propose to change the contest: from 'Logo Design Competition' to 'Identity Design Competition'

    signed: an anonymous coward designer

  • by Colonel Cholling (715787) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @10:25AM (#7985012)
    First of all, let me say that the daemons in the logo look more to me like the Noid from the Domino's Pizza commercials of the mid-1980s.

    Second, these cartoon daemons bear even less resemblance to the Biblical devil than the modern-day Santa Claus image does to St. Nicholas of Myra. Nowhere in the Bible is Satan described as a red, scaly gentleman with horns and a bifurcated tail who carries a hayfork. That image is a product of the Middle Ages. The BSD version is a cariacature at that. There's simply nothing here that should offend anyone's religious sensibilities.
  • Re:Looks fine to me! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Asmodai (13932) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @11:04AM (#7985380) Homepage
    Not really. A swastika is the symbol of an organization that verifiably eradicated six million jews and similar numbers of gay people, Romany gypsies, etc.

    Bah, learn proper history before commenting. The swastika is a Hindu holy symbol and associated with Ganesh, the Hindu god of good luck/fortune. It is also highly used by the Buddhists in the world since the arms symbolise the chain of rebirth and death. The four 'L's are associated with Life, Love, Luck, and Light.

    In the World War Adolf Hitler was smart enough to take an established symbol like the Indian swastika and mirrored it and made it a symbol for the Nazis to be proud of. He did the same to the Napolean Iron Cross.

    *wishing people who take their collective political correct heads our of their political correct arses, not everything revolves around the west and the middle east*
  • Re:Looks fine to me! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by zerocool^ (112121) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @11:15AM (#7985507) Homepage Journal
    Yeah, the flying thing with the blue mouth and the horns? Yeah, that was a cacodemon, probably a reference to a kakodaimon.
  • by DG (989) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @11:46AM (#7985846) Homepage Journal
    True story:

    Driving south on I-69 heading to Indianapolis, pull off to get something to eat at the typical "McDonalds on an exit" that are scattered all over the US.

    My McMeal rings up as $6.66. Teenaged girl behind counter flips out, and insists that the food is free. When I try and tell her it's no big deal; I'm not afraid of a number she gets REAL upset and flat-out REFUSES to take my money.

    Rather than cause more of a scene that was already developing, I accepted, and her relief was palpable - like my immortal soul had been just snatched back from the firey jaws of Satan himself.

    Some people REALLY believe this devil shit is BAD.

    DG
  • Re:An opportunity... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by SteelX (32194) on Thursday January 15, 2004 @01:58PM (#7987597)
    I've been thinking about checking out NetBSD's pkgsrc for quite a while. It sounds like a really cool idea. You seem to have experience with NetBSD and I was wondering if you could answer a question that I have been pondering for some time.

    Would it be possible to use pkgsrc as the main package management system on a Linux box, say, Slackware? What I mean is, forget Slackware's package management system altogether and replace it with NetBSD's pkgsrc.

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