Support FreeBSD 51
welloy writes "In a mail to freebsd-announce Robert Bruce writes that "during the week of September 7th to September 13th, all revenue from purchases at the FreeBSD Mall will be donated to the FreeBSD Foundation to support work being done to improve the fine grained threading in the FreeBSD Kernel, and other improvements needed to make the upcoming 5.2 release a success." The offer also applies to their table at BSDCon. This is a great way to support the FreeBSD project and ensure they have funding to keep up their great work."
But... but... but... (Score:4, Funny)
Darl McBride glowers at you.
Darl McBride takes a swing - miss!
Nothing happens.
Darl McBride glowers at you.
Nothing happens.
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donate (Score:5, Interesting)
If your business relies on FreeBSD as ours does, I suggest you do the same.. it's not really a donation, it's an investment in your business' future technology needs!!
Go ahead, take a look at that rack/shelf/desk filled with FreeBSD machines. Think about how great it is that you've got a simple, secure, stable platform and you didn't pay anything but a few hours of your time.
Now head over to the page [freebsdfoundation.org] and give 'em a few bucks.
Follow the money (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Follow the money (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Follow the money (Score:3, Insightful)
Methinks you have your facts wrong. Perhaps you're referring to something other than FreeBSD Mall.
Re:Even Apple knew enough to change (Score:1)
shell game (Score:1)
No, it's not. I've built dozens of BSD boxes, at work and at home, and I've never had one without bash, which I install from a package during the installation. It rarely takes as long as two seconds. (... Are you some sly kind of troll?
I like choosing my own shell and I like only having minimalist shells in the base system. Some of these people need to get a life and stop nit-picking.
Re:Even Apple knew enough to change (Score:4, Informative)
Why is csh still the default on FreeBSD?
You don't even know what you're talking about. The only account that has tcsh is root. If you go to single user mode, the prompt actually asks you whjat shell to run. You only see it if you log in or su. The default config also has a toor account (uid 0) that defaults to bash shell. As far as normal users go, the first time you run adduser it asks you what should be the default shell for new users, getting a list from
To be taken seriously
Taken seriously? What, it has a bad image because Krusty the Klown endorses tcsh?
this should change to bash, which is a superior shell
Agreed, I hate tcsh, thats why my machine defaults to bash for all new accounts.
BTW: some would debate that zsh is superior to bash (I actually agree, but zsh isn't universally available to me on all systems I need to be on). Should I run around to RedHat and gentoo and tell them they should change their shell because zsh is better?
with a superior license.
Debateable. And you just answered your own question, the license issue. If Stallman can have his whole snitfit about GPL code and saying the only true license is the GNU license EVEN when the license has been cerified Open Source, then BSD can do what it wants.
Re:Even Apple knew enough to change (Score:1, Informative)
No, it doesn't. The default config has a toor account that defaults to the sh shell. sh is a bourne shell, but it's far from bash for interactive use, and lacks such basics as command-line editing and completion. bash has to be installed on any FreeBSD box that wants it.
Re:Even Apple knew enough to change (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Even Apple knew enough to change (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Please, DO NOT support them (Score:5, Insightful)
You must not have spent much time reading LKML (Linux Kernel Mailing List). It's hardly populated by paragons of politeness (from Linus on down). That's hardly a surprise -- they are there to conduct the serious business of building and enhancing the Linux kernel, and naive questions draw dismissive responses if they are answered at all. So why are people so surprised at the responses they get when they post inappropriately to the equivalent FreeBSD lists?
I've seen it happen again aand again: someone posts an inappropriate question to freebsd-stable, freebsd-current, or some other technical list, and after a few private suggestions to take it to freebsd-questions or freebsd-chat persists in posting. It's usually only then that one of the heavy hitters decides to knock him out of the ring...
As for Matt Dillion, he was given a choice: play by the rules, or leave. He chose the latter. It's no secret that he didn't agree with some of the choices made in FreeBSD 5 development, so it's a good thing that he's decided to channel his considerable talents into creating his own distribution [dragonflybsd.org] based on FreeBSD 4. Nonetheless, he still is on cordial terms with many of the FreeBSD developers, still runs FreeBSD on many of his machines, still makes bug reports and suggests patches, and so on.
In other words, he shows a lot more class and maturity than guys like you who, sore after some imagined slight, take anonymous pot-shots from the sidelines.
Pimping (Score:3, Interesting)
Rus
silly trolls (Score:1)
chris@gimli:~> ls -lh test
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris 19M Sep 4 17:55 test
chris@gimli:~> time cp test test.old
real 0m3.430s
user 0m0.001s
sys 0m1.644s
chris@gimli:~> ls -lh test.old
-rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris 19M Sep 4 17:57 test.old