Support FreeBSD

welloy writes "In a mail to freebsd-announce Robert Bruce writes that "during the week of September 7th to September 13th, all revenue from purchases at the FreeBSD Mall will be donated to the FreeBSD Foundation to support work being done to improve the fine grained threading in the FreeBSD Kernel, and other improvements needed to make the upcoming 5.2 release a success." The offer also applies to their table at BSDCon. This is a great way to support the FreeBSD project and ensure they have funding to keep up their great work."

Re:Follow the money

[gl4ss]

in a way they are this should explain a bit. [freebsdmall.com]

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Re:Even Apple knew enough to change

[cant_get_a_good_nick]

Me senseth a troll...

Why is csh still the default on FreeBSD?
You don't even know what you're talking about. The only account that has tcsh is root. If you go to single user mode, the prompt actually asks you whjat shell to run. You only see it if you log in or su. The default config also has a toor account (uid 0) that defaults to bash shell. As far as normal users go, the first time you run adduser it asks you what should be the default shell for new users, getting a list from /etc/shells. tcsh is not the default, just takes a little work (cd /usr/ports; make install clean) to get bash before running adduser for the first time.

To be taken seriously
Taken seriously? What, it has a bad image because Krusty the Klown endorses tcsh?

this should change to bash, which is a superior shell
Agreed, I hate tcsh, thats why my machine defaults to bash for all new accounts.

BTW: some would debate that zsh is superior to bash (I actually agree, but zsh isn't universally available to me on all systems I need to be on). Should I run around to RedHat and gentoo and tell them they should change their shell because zsh is better?

with a superior license.
Debateable. And you just answered your own question, the license issue. If Stallman can have his whole snitfit about GPL code and saying the only true license is the GNU license EVEN when the license has been cerified Open Source, then BSD can do what it wants.

Re:Even Apple knew enough to change

[Anonymous Coward]

The default config also has a toor account (uid 0) that defaults to bash shell.

No, it doesn't. The default config has a toor account that defaults to the sh shell. sh is a bourne shell, but it's far from bash for interactive use, and lacks such basics as command-line editing and completion. bash has to be installed on any FreeBSD box that wants it.

Re:Even Apple knew enough to change

[fsdb]

/bin/sh (the BSD Bourne shell) DOES have command-line editing. Both vi and emacs flavors -- just like bash. Please try things before posting "facts" about them.