DragonFly BSD Announced 460
JoshRendlesham writes "Matt Dillon announced today on the freebsd-hackers mailing list the creation of the DragonFly BSD project. It seeks to build on the work of FreeBSD 4.x, including a rewrite of the packaging and distribution system, among other goals."
Re:Another one? (Score:4, Interesting)
New Packaging System (Score:2, Interesting)
PORTAGE! (Score:1, Interesting)
BSD and Smart People (Score:3, Interesting)
Imagine what these guys could actually *do* if they put aside their differences and worked together!! No unsolved CS problem would be safe.
Matt Dillon, eh? (Score:2, Interesting)
Matt: if you're reading this, I loved DICE, and all your other work on the Amiga - your compiler is one of the reasons I'm a programmer today. I hadn't been keeping up with your work but it's good to see you're still out there doing stuff.
(seems a lot of the old Amiga 'big names' have gone on to do interesting stuff in the time since)
Re:Matt Dillon, eh? (Score:1, Interesting)
And yeah, I also owned a copy of DICE on my Amiga. Awesome compiler. Still have the floppies.
(Of course, then ixlib came along with GCC...)
Re:Messaging layer (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Matt Dillon, eh? (Score:5, Interesting)
-Matt
Re:Oh no, not another! (Score:2, Interesting)
But then maybe I liked Blondie 24 [harcourt-i...tional.com] too much.
Well, good luck to him! (Score:5, Interesting)
It would be nice if DragonFlyBSD (gah, ENAMETOOLONG) was a similar deal. As a FreeBSD developer, I hope that there will be plenty of opportunities to take good stuff in both directions. If we can keep people away from each others throats and work on making the code better, then everybody wins.
Diversity is good. Developers fighting each other is bad. Forks can be a good way to relieve the stress. There is no need to make a Big Deal(TM) about it.
Re:Messaging layer (Score:5, Interesting)
Technically its not a job but they refuse all his patches and he lost write access. The chances now of it being merged into FreeBSD are remote.
He had no choice but to fork if he wanted to continue developing. That or join the Openbsd team or Linux.
Infact Dillion help fixed the vm bug in Linux 2.4. He actually has already developed Linux code.
Re:Wonderful (Score:2, Interesting)
Anyway, XMach is a version of BSD with a Mach-based kernel. I don't know what's the status of that current project, with Darwin and HURD nipping at its heels (not that either are perfect replacements) its not as popular as it might otherwise be.
Remember, BSD is also defined by the userland. I look forward to BSD/Linux, the one true user land with the best supported kernel. Not going to happen but I can dream.
As far as the Windows comment, that others have commented upon, yeah it was an off-the-cuff why-not-put-that-in thing with the infamous TCP/IP stack thing at the back of my mind. Mind you, apparently most layers of that stack have been rewritten, leaving a handful of userland utilities such as FTP that still have BSD code in them.
Re:pkg could be a lot better (Score:2, Interesting)
And if you add something like the following in /etc/make.conf, you also get "make update" in /usr/src. :-)
SebastianRe:Good luck to you Matt. (Score:4, Interesting)
The problem with the GPL is that it doesn't trust its fate to human nature but instead tries to force an effect that tends to be against human nature. GPL is a license based on fear and uncertainty, at least from an idealogical standpoing. The BSD license recognizes human nature and works with it to far greater effect for the society as a whole. I prefer trust to fear. I'm just not the paranoid type and if one doesn't have commercial motives for using the GPL one really has to have a high level of paranoia to justify it. That is the reality of the GPL. I use it occassionally, but for commercial reasons only. Everything else I do under the BSD.
-Matt