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FreeBSD 5.1 Review and BSD Roundup 385

securitas writes "Both eWEEK's review of FreeBSD 5.1 and ExtremeTech's BSD overview and roundup (single page) will be of interest to BSDers and anyone else who wants to explore their open source OS options. The review of FreeBSD 5.1 says it lacks the stability of v4.8 but adds features that some may find useful (for example, more processor architectures are supported) so it shouldn't be considered for critical deployments yet. And the BSD round-up speaks for itself."
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FreeBSD 5.1 Review and BSD Roundup

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  • by Surak ( 18578 ) * <surakNO@SPAMmailblocks.com> on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @03:01PM (#6402093) Homepage Journal
    One might well be justified in calling BSD the "Mr. Chips" of operating systems. In the final scene of the classic movie "Goodbye, Mr. Chips", a doctor remarks that it is a shame that the title character -- a masterful schoolteacher now on his death bed -- has never had children. Referring to the many youngsters whose lives he had helped to shape, Mr. Chips replies that he has indeed had children... thousands of them.

    I'm not sure I get the analogy, but I *think* he just said *BSD is dying. ;)

  • by Jack Wagner ( 444727 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @03:03PM (#6402111) Homepage Journal
    As a long time IT professional I recommend FreeBSD all the time. I'll go into meetings where people are just crying for me to help them gain synergy by decreasing their TCO while at the same time increasing their ROI, yet these people look like a deer caught in the headlights when I flat out tell them that the only way to do that is by looking at taking the next step to the next level by integrating their asset management supply side relationships into leveraged content delivery paradigms, with an eye towards aligning their collaborative relationship initiatives towards common goals and the first step in that direction is to move to an OS that has Olog(n)performance, namely FreeBSD.

    I've been able to do this in the past with a a few Fortune 500 companies by implementing a strict B2C affinity marketing plan which relies heavily on E-mediation performance metrics, something that not everyone is willing to go through.

    In short, don't even come to me with questions about your Value chain collaborative commerce unless you're willing to pay the piper and upgrade to FreeBSD because this is not your daddy's economy and you'll get nowhere by running legacy operating systems. Times have changed and unless you're willing to change with them you'll be left behind wondering what the hell happened to all your profits.

    Warmest regards,

    --Jack

  • by goldspider ( 445116 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @03:04PM (#6402120) Homepage
    "The review of FreeBSD 5.1 says it lacks the stability of v4.8 but adds features that some may find useful so it shouldn't be considered for critical deployments yet."

    Isn't this what has been said about Windows for quite some time?

  • by swb ( 14022 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @03:04PM (#6402121)
    Give me a break. Somebody gets paid for doing that kind of work, and a title like "Senior Analyst"?
  • by Dthoma ( 593797 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @03:14PM (#6402217) Journal
    "The review of FreeBSD 5.1 says it lacks the stability of v4.8"

    A BSD lacking stability? *universe explodes*
  • by craig2787 ( 533589 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @03:34PM (#6402361) Journal
    I checked the website, and there is no indication that any more code came from Poland in this release than 5.0.
  • by Arandir ( 19206 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @03:47PM (#6402448) Homepage Journal
    Those two people out there still using Tokenring will just have to stick with Linux then...
  • by CoolVibe ( 11466 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @03:56PM (#6402511) Journal
    Thanks for reading and have a pleasant morning (or whatever time of day it is, depending on your geometric location).

    What does me living somewhere in a dodecahedral shape have to do with what timezone I live in?

    Oh you mean geographic, not geometric... Never mind...

  • by minus_273 ( 174041 ) <{aaaaa} {at} {SPAM.yahoo.com}> on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @04:03PM (#6402584) Journal
    hey, what do you mean alot more POLISH? are you some kind of racist? oh polish, i see .. sorry
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @04:07PM (#6402620)
    [...] to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this BSD box, the same operation would take about 2 minutes.

    I owned a Dual Pentium Pro 200 running NT4. What's even funnier is I owned it and the poor fool didn't discover I was serving MP3s (with Gnutella protocol) until about two months later! I did this by hiding the crackapp name of my custom gnutella server from the POSIX tasklist and only would serve the MP3s to the Gnutella network while another filetransfer was active by the local user. 1337 cr4x0r h47h 0wn3d j00!

    My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 800 mhz machine at times.

    That's not uncommon. I own a 486/25 with 4MB of RAM, S3 video, XFree86-3.3.5, and I telnet to my GS140 AlphaServer, issue a "export DISPLAY='192.168.1.66:0.0'," and finish it off with a "darkplaces >/dev/null 2>&1." I get Icculus' DarkPlaces Quake1 engine [icculus.org] playing on my 486/25 machine at about 300 frames per second in software rendering, but alas my 486/25 can effectivly only update the X Server display at about 20 frames per second. Still, my 487/25 is playing DarkPlaces twice as fast as your Pentium3/800! That makes my freeBSD 486/25 much faster than your measly Pentium3/800! And with Linux on the GS140, I have a great team-alliance for stability and performance.

    You realy need to ditch that M1cr0$l07h W1nd0z3 NT4 in favor of an operating system that can at-least handle more than four CPUs and USB/Firewire, becuase NT4 is sooo-obsolete, same for ActiveDirectory and IIS; just use Apache/FetchMail/ProFTP
  • by pboulang ( 16954 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @04:24PM (#6402785)
    Didn't we all read that as "YFI: You're Fucking Insane"?
  • by forged ( 206127 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @04:53PM (#6403022) Homepage Journal
    Try this out [perkigoth.com] ! I know that there are several versions out there, one of them specific to I.T. but I don't remember the link off-hand... Someone feeds this post through the B*S Bingo for some fun !
  • by MyHair ( 589485 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @07:05PM (#6403922) Journal
    I was told to make sure to bring a PCMCIA token-ring card for my laptop ... the token-ring network was so slow ...

    Apparently you should've brought your own token, too.

    (Wishing I knew how to find a link to that Dilbert strip where PHB is searching his office for the token.)
  • s/BSD/Linux (Score:4, Funny)

    by pr0ntab ( 632466 ) <pr0ntab.gmail@com> on Wednesday July 09, 2003 @09:44PM (#6404711) Journal
    So bottom line is, I really liked a lot of Linux's features, but unfortunately an OS without programs is useless.

    If you want x86 Unix with some commercial support, there is Linux. If you just want commercial support, there is Windows.

    You can still get the commercial apps to work on BSD (and some may be native), but that's not why you are using it. You are using it because you are a geek and you're not a slashbot, macophile, amiga-freak, microsoftie, or aol-er. Also, you don't like getting 0wn3d.

  • by ImpTech ( 549794 ) on Thursday July 10, 2003 @01:00AM (#6405477)
    > When was the last time MS released an OS upgrade and said "well, this OS isn't as stable as the last one, but we will release some service packs in a few month and those who are running mission critical applications should wait until these are released before upgrading."

    Never. See, these FreeBSD guys are slackers. They're clearly releasing beta code and calling it final. Every Microsoft release is Better, Faster, Easier to Use, More Stable and Reliable than Ever (tm), and helps You Do More Faster. FreeBSD needs to get its act together before it dies out.

    Humorless moderators, please consult your sarcasm meters before exercising your mystical powers.
  • by gr ( 4059 ) on Thursday July 10, 2003 @09:39AM (#6406780) Journal
    Oh yes, we also don't spawn a new distro every time somebody decides they want to do stuff their own way.
    You know, with the exception of certain Canadians. ;^> (In case the smiley isn't sufficient, that's a joke. All my computers run NetBSD.)
  • by mdew ( 651926 ) on Sunday July 13, 2003 @12:03PM (#6428240) Homepage
    GNU/Debian [debian.org]

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