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FreeBSD 5.1 i386 RC1 92

Posted by michael from the testing-1-2-3 dept.
Dan writes "FreeBSD Release Engineering Team's Scott Long has uploaded FreeBSD RC1 for i386, he says that alpha RC1 is in the works. Kris Kennaway has uploaded i386 packages. Marcel Moolenaar is working on RC1 ia64, ISOs for which will be available sometime tomorrow. You can find RC1 at one of your preferred mirror sites"
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  • I hope this will work better. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Nethead ( 1563 ) <joe@nethead.com> on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @02:37PM (#6107614) Homepage Journal
    I tried 5.1-BETA2 on my Thinkpad and it wouldn't even install or run the generic kernel. I guess that's why they call it beta :)

  • Not released yet (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    RC1 is not released yet. None of the mirrors have had a chance sync up with ftp-master yet.

    • Re:Not released yet (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Really? I see ISO files for RC-1, dated June 1 sitting on a few of the ftp servers

  • 6 Days of Testing? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @04:33PM (#6108896) Journal
    The release schedule [freebsd.org] had this release planned for may 30, and the release of 5.1 set for June 5. Is it just me, or is 6 days between first release candidate and final release cutting it a bit fine? I know that 5.1 is not -STABLE (which is why I'm using 4.8, and looking forward to 5.2), but even so...

    • Re:6 Days of Testing? (Score:4, Informative)

      by Everlone ( 612308 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @05:06PM (#6109275) Homepage
      I think they rely on a lot of people doing upgrades and fresh installs to catch any major problems.

      Ones that occur once the system is running tend to be found and fixed well before they start to release ISO images.

      Alternatively they could just be impatient and wanting to get on with working on 5.2 so they can get RELENG_5 tagged and forgotten about, but I doubt it ;-)

    • Re:6 Days of Testing? (Score:5, Informative)

      by bmah ( 99344 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @05:49PM (#6109698) Homepage
      Scott is trying a slightly different model for 5.1. You might have seen where we did two BETA releases earlier in May. These occupy the same places on the schedule that the first two RC snapshots did on some other releases. The idea is that the thing called 5.1-RC1 should be really really really close to what we'd ship for the release, with almost all of the bugs (that we're able to catch anyways) ironed out during 5.1-BETA1 and 5.1-BETA2. Also, 5.1-RC1 was/is released from the CVS branch to be used for the release.

      Most of the process changes affect only committers (I think)...I'd expect that the only changes visible to most users would be the names of the snapshots.

    • Re:6 Days of Testing? (Score:4, Informative)

      by R.Caley ( 126968 ) on Wednesday June 04, 2003 @04:22AM (#6112999)
      Is it just me, or is 6 days between first release candidate and final release cutting it a bit fine?

      Remember, only the instalation stuff is gogin to need shaking out in that time. Lots of people will have been upgrading to and running the new code from CVS before they actually make ISO images for people to test the instalation, setup and out-of-the-box behaviour.

  • BSD is Alive (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @04:34PM (#6108917)
    It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is growing

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Windows community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has risen yet again, now up to more than 30 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has gained more market share , this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is sending other OSes into complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by topping the charts in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Daemon to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a long and prosperous future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Windows Server because *BSD is growing. Things are looking very good for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to gain market share. Red ink flows from Redmond like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most loved of them all, having gained 93% more core developers. The sudden and pleasant release of the long developed 5.0 only serves to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is growing.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 70000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 70000/5 = 14000 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 7000 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (70000+14000+7000)*4 = 364000 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the release of OSX, cool new technologies and so on, FreeBSD is expanding into more desktops than ever. FreeBSD has become more than the sum of its parts.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily gained in market share. *BSD is very powerful and its long term survival prospects are very bright. If Windows is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to improve. The progress achieved is nothing short of a miracle. For all practical purposes, *BSD is alive and kicking.

    Fact: *BSD will kick your ass

  • i386? gcc? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by (startx) ( 37027 )
    what version of gcc does FreeBSD 5.1 have that they can still build it for a 386? Even Slackware has moved on to optimizing for 486 now that gcc has broken 386 compatibility....

    • Re:i386? gcc? (Score:5, Informative)

      by bluGill ( 862 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @10:06PM (#6111385)

      For tradtitional reasons, it is still called the i386, even though by default it won't run on a real 80386. The source code is compatable, with either chip. (Except the SMP stuff, but that is off by default). Note that the option to compile for the 80386 is not compatable with the option to compile for the 80486 and latter chips. Those who wish to use a i386 have to go through some effort to make it work.

  • 5.1RC is out ... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    ...and still the kernel on alpha does not build... anyone similar experience ?

    sh ../../../conf/newvers.sh DRACHENTOR
    cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror vers.c

  • Multiple kernels (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Stonent1 ( 594886 ) <stonentNO@SPAMstonent.pointclark.net> on Thursday June 05, 2003 @06:36PM (#6127753) Journal
    I'd kinda like multiple kernels to choose from during the install. For example if you put freebsd on a laptop, you need to build an "old card" kernel for systems without cardbus controllers. This took me quite a while to figure out.
  • Personally, I'm waiting for 5.x-STABLE before I completely switch over from Linux to FreeBSD.

    Why am I doing it? Not because of any zealot reasons, I don't have any horrible Linux horror stories, and no, it has nothing to do with SCO.

    The truth, the honest truth, is that I just like the way FreeBSD does shit better, and hey, I've been using FreeBSD 4.8 a lot more than Linux or Windows anyway (a lot more) so it makes a lot of sense that I should start seriously concidering which of the two I should use as my

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