FreeBSD 5.1 i386 RC1 92
Dan writes "FreeBSD Release Engineering Team's Scott Long has uploaded FreeBSD RC1 for i386, he says that alpha RC1 is in the works. Kris Kennaway has uploaded i386 packages. Marcel Moolenaar is working on RC1 ia64, ISOs for which will be available sometime tomorrow. You can find RC1 at one of your preferred mirror sites"
Re:Nope, not dead yet (Score:1)
But you know, it makes sense. When that movie came out the average slashdotter was about 2 years old. I guess I'm just an old man.
I hope this will work better. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I hope this will work better. (Score:4, Informative)
Not released yet (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Not released yet (Score:1, Informative)
6 Days of Testing? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:6 Days of Testing? (Score:4, Informative)
Ones that occur once the system is running tend to be found and fixed well before they start to release ISO images.
Alternatively they could just be impatient and wanting to get on with working on 5.2 so they can get RELENG_5 tagged and forgotten about, but I doubt it
Re:6 Days of Testing? (Score:5, Informative)
Most of the process changes affect only committers (I think)...I'd expect that the only changes visible to most users would be the names of the snapshots.
Re:6 Days of Testing? (Score:2)
Re:6 Days of Testing? (Score:4, Informative)
Remember, only the instalation stuff is gogin to need shaking out in that time. Lots of people will have been upgrading to and running the new code from CVS before they actually make ISO images for people to test the instalation, setup and out-of-the-box behaviour.
BSD is Alive (Score:5, Funny)
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Windows community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has risen yet again, now up to more than 30 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has gained more market share , this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is sending other OSes into complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by topping the charts in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Daemon to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a long and prosperous future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Windows Server because *BSD is growing. Things are looking very good for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to gain market share. Red ink flows from Redmond like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most loved of them all, having gained 93% more core developers. The sudden and pleasant release of the long developed 5.0 only serves to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is growing.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 70000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 70000/5 = 14000 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 7000 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (70000+14000+7000)*4 = 364000 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the release of OSX, cool new technologies and so on, FreeBSD is expanding into more desktops than ever. FreeBSD has become more than the sum of its parts.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily gained in market share. *BSD is very powerful and its long term survival prospects are very bright. If Windows is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to improve. The progress achieved is nothing short of a miracle. For all practical purposes, *BSD is alive and kicking.
Fact: *BSD will kick your ass
Re:BSD is Alive (Score:3, Insightful)
FreeBSD goal is not to rule the world or take on Microsoft.
It is quite simply to help everyone by making an excellent OS.
I think they have done quite well.
Re:BSD is Alive (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:BSD is Alive (Score:2, Insightful)
And it ain't about freedom.
Re:BSD is Alive (Score:2)
Re:BSD is Alive (Score:2, Insightful)
i386? gcc? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:i386? gcc? (Score:5, Informative)
Support for i386 was removed in order to reduce bloat of boot media and gain the advantage of a very useful instruction introduced in Intel's 486 chip. cmpchg or somesuch, feel free to search the mailing list archives if you're interested, the thread went on for a good month or more.
You can of course rebuild everything on your own and have it run on a 386, but personally I feel most anything prior to PentiumII is wasting more electricity than it's worth. Only places you'll find this is in embedded systems, and they're not directly supported by FreeBSD.
Re:i386? gcc? (Score:5, Informative)
For tradtitional reasons, it is still called the i386, even though by default it won't run on a real 80386. The source code is compatable, with either chip. (Except the SMP stuff, but that is off by default). Note that the option to compile for the 80386 is not compatable with the option to compile for the 80486 and latter chips. Those who wish to use a i386 have to go through some effort to make it work.
Not just yet. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:STABLE anyone? (Score:2, Informative)
Excerpt:
If BSD is dying (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Elegy for *BSD (Score:1)
Re:Elegy for *BSD (Score:3, Funny)
5.1RC is out ... (Score:1, Interesting)
sh
cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -mieee -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror vers.c
Re:5.1RC is out ... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:5.1RC is out ... (Score:3, Informative)
Multiple kernels (Score:3, Interesting)
5.x (Score:1)
Why am I doing it? Not because of any zealot reasons, I don't have any horrible Linux horror stories, and no, it has nothing to do with SCO.
The truth, the honest truth, is that I just like the way FreeBSD does shit better, and hey, I've been using FreeBSD 4.8 a lot more than Linux or Windows anyway (a lot more) so it makes a lot of sense that I should start seriously concidering which of the two I should use as my
Re:a colossal failure (Score:1)
I think it's because BSD didn't have a super-powerful, single personality driving it. GNU has RMS, Linux has Linus, Apple has Jobs, Microsoft has Gates. BSD has always had a collection of people, none of whom is suitable for the Napoleon.