FreeBSD Core Developer Thrown Out

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Posted by chrisd on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:18PM from the maybe-good-maybe-bad dept.

SlashChick writes "From a discussion on the freebsd-chat mailing list, it appears that one of the FreeBSD core developers, Matt Dillon, has been barred from committing any changes to the FreeBSD kernel. Dillon was one of the developers 'responsible for making FreeBSD 4.x the most rugged and stress-proof free operating system in existence,' and also contributed to fixing the Linux VM. Unfortunately, there has been little explanation from the FreeBSD core team about why Dillon was thrown out, leading to speculation and worries about the future of the FreeBSD kernel. Does the Slashdot community have any more insight into this situation? Would someone from the FreeBSD team care to elaborate and assuage our worries?" CD Update: Greg Lehey from the core team has infact elaborated in this comment.

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Good timing (Score:0, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:20PM (#5218937)

Just in time for Wild Things 2

lead developer? (Score:0, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:21PM (#5218944)

Veeeeee don't need no stinkin lead developer.

little devil! (Score:5, Funny)

by Zeppelingb ( 609128 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:22PM (#5218955)

The devil made them do it.

Free BSD Dying (Score:0, Funny)

by tanknurse ( 645623 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:23PM (#5218961)

While my primary job aint tech, i play one in my spare time....and i thought BSD was losing mindshare, as well as boxen?? For Gods sake, why would someone choose BSD over linux????.

I suppose due to the less restrictive commercial license, but IBM is showing how to deal with that...

Matt Dillon? (Score:4, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:23PM (#5218963)

Wow, actor and leet BSD Developer! Who'd have thunk?

Politics (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:23PM (#5218966)

It's all about office politics.

Splitter! (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:23PM (#5218970)

Hey probably wanted to make a new variant, like ExpensiveBSD or UltraFreeBSD or CoolBSD

Wow and actor and a coder (Score:5, Funny)

by Dynamoo ( 527749 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:23PM (#5218973) Homepage

I guess his acting career [imdb.com] interefered with his coding too much.
Or maybe he admitted to owning a copy of Windows XP?

In other news (Score:4, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:24PM (#5218983)

Miguel de incaza gets chucked out of gnome, helps kde instead.

Maybe he didn't comment his code well enough (Score:5, Funny)

by DenOfEarth ( 162699 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:26PM (#5219004) Homepage

yeh, I'm marking c++ lab exercises now, and I can tell ya, people that don't comment enough surely don't make it easy on those people that have to understand their code.

Re:well.....bring to MS all FreeBSD programmers... (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:27PM (#5219010)

...then release WinBSD!

Re:little devil! (Score:5, Funny)

by sqlrob ( 173498 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:29PM (#5219030)

That's daemon [userfriendly.org] to you.

Re:Nice name... (Score:4, Funny)

by Dave_B93 ( 528595 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:29PM (#5219031)

Hopefully they didn't throw him out because he is named after a very popular actor ;).
well, an actor atleast...

Oh great... SlashTroll Fest! (Score:0, Funny)

by bellings ( 137948 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:30PM (#5219038)
Yeah, I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot reading the responses to this article.

NOT!

Top ten posts will be:
1. BSD is dying.
2. Open Source developers are all anti-social weenies with aspegers or autism.
3. Linux is better anyhow.
4. Microsoft is gloating as free software tears itself apart.
5. He can start his own distribution now, and competition is good for the marketplace.
6. I once tried to install BSD, but it was too hard.
7. Look at this picture of a man's giant asshole.
8. Don't you mean GNU/BSD?
9. I read on a mailing list about a guy who knew a kernel developer's cousin, and he said that Dave was an asshole, just like Theo.
10. Profit!
Re:Politiburo (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:31PM (#5219047)

I think you mean ousted? Although that could be a totally new side of history that I never knew about...

Re:Not trying to be controversial... (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:33PM (#5219064)

They caught him using Windows XP at home.

Slashdot ... (Score:5, Funny)

by Space_Nerd ( 255762 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:34PM (#5219069)

... Gossip for Nerds, Stuff that chatters.

I know, its not even funny.

Re:Similar to the Net/OpenBSD split (Score:4, Funny)

by GT_Alias ( 551463 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:35PM (#5219077)

A fifth open source BSD might seem excessive to some, but there are still many ways for such a project to differentiate itself.
Hmmm....I'm not convinced, you'll have to try harder.

Re:Politiburo (Score:4, Funny)

by VarmintCong ( 151154 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:36PM (#5219079)

I didn't know Krushchev was gay.

Is that is why he kept banging his shoes against tables all the time? Because they were such horrible fashion statements?

Re:Politiburo (Score:5, Funny)

by msgmonkey ( 599753 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:36PM (#5219086)

And what makes you think these kind of things don't happen in non-OSS projects? If this was a situation within a corporation where a member of a team was causing disruption they'd be sacked regardless how good they where.

BSD will be stronger than ever! (Score:3, Funny)

by teamhasnoi ( 554944 ) writes: <teamhasnoi AT yahoo DOT com> on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:36PM (#5219087) Journal

'cause he'll go and work for Apple. He and Steve can work together, and when they have a disagreement, they can play bloody knuckles 'til someone gives in.
Sounds like crappy politics - ruins more stuff than it should. Why can't people just shut up and code?
Reminds me of a certain someone, a certain website, and a certain -1 Offtopic Mod.
But what do I know? Until you get two people together to talk it out while being moderated, you'll never get anywhere once the lines of communication break down.

Re:well.....bring to MS all FreeBSD programmers... (Score:2, Funny)

by rgmoore ( 133276 ) writes: <glandauer@charter.net> on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:37PM (#5219096) Homepage

...then release WinBSD

Sorry, they already have that. Oh, wait. I thought you said WinBS O D. Sorry.

Re:Oh great... SlashTroll Fest! (Score:2, Funny)

by geekoid ( 135745 ) writes: <dadinportlandNO@SPAMyahoo.com> on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:39PM (#5219108) Homepage Journal

11. List of what people will say.
12. Duplicate lists of what people will say.

This is old news. (Score:3, Funny)

by Bingo Foo ( 179380 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:41PM (#5219128)

Come on, Slashdot. Matt Dillon [imdb.com] has been one of The Outsiders [imdb.com] for at least 20 years.

Who's next ? (Score:3, Funny)

by unitron ( 5733 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:41PM (#5219129) Homepage Journal

What about Doc, Miss Kitty, and Chester? Are they the next to be kicked to the curb?

Re:well..... (Score:2, Funny)

by Sarcazmo ( 555312 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:45PM (#5219160)

BSD programmers already code for MS, haven't you read the license?

The Matrix Has You (deja vu)... (Score:4, Funny)

by snowpuppy ( 153096 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:46PM (#5219167) Homepage

Theo de Raadt Version 2.0

"FreeBSD Core Developer Guy: A black cat went past us, and then another that looked just ...

FreeBSD Core Developer Girl: How much
like it, was it the same cat? ... A deja vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix"

Theo de Raadt Version 2.0

Snowdog

It was the cover sheet! (Score:5, Funny)

by AgTiger ( 458268 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:49PM (#5219191) Homepage

Um, Matt? There's a small problem... You forgot to put a cover sheet on your last TSP report, I'm afraid we're going to have to kick you off the development team.

I heard a little about it... (Score:3, Funny)

by NanoGator ( 522640 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:51PM (#5219196) Homepage Journal

"Does the Slashdot community have any more insight into this situation? "

I caught a bit of the conversation about this man's departure. I can't remember details, just something about a red stapler.

An Apple New Employee in the making? (Score:3, Funny)

by linuxislandsucks ( 461335 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:52PM (#5219204) Homepage Journal

Maybe he got hired by Apple and is praticing his new Steve Jobs impressions?

Yes, that's right. FUD on slashdot... (Score:4, Funny)

by thrillbert ( 146343 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:52PM (#5219214) Homepage

... film at 11.

Re:Politiburo (Score:5, Funny)

by Stephen VanDahm ( 88206 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:53PM (#5219218)

The difference is that, in the Open Source Community, all the juicy dirt gets posted on the front page of Slashdot. Basically, it's a real-life soap opera, but without all the hot women.

Wait...maybe that's not cool after all....

Re:little devil! (Score:3, Funny)

by yomegaman ( 516565 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @07:56PM (#5219229)

Ladies and gentlemen, your new lead developer, Flip Wilson!

Re:Splitter! (Score:3, Funny)

by axxackall ( 579006 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @08:00PM (#5219263) Homepage Journal

FreeBSD + CoolBSD = FreezeBSD

Can't commit? (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @08:05PM (#5219299)

So what? My girlfriend has said I can't commit for a long time now.

Re:Politics (Score:5, Funny)

by SoupIsGoodFood_42 ( 521389 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @08:09PM (#5219335)

It's all about office politics.
Perhaps he stole someones stapler?

Re:It was the cover sheet! (Score:3, Funny)

by ehudokai ( 585897 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @08:13PM (#5219366)

not to be a troll, but isn't it TPS report?
I just hate for the best movie ever to be misquoted...

Seinfeld (Score:2, Funny)

by Graspee_Leemoor ( 302316 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @08:18PM (#5219400) Homepage Journal

Since he doesn't get paid it's kind of like that bit in Seinfeld where Kramer gets fired, which goes along the lines of (don't flame me, I'm quoting from memory):

Kramer: But I don't even really work here!
Boss: I know, that's what makes it even harder.

graspee

Re:Politiburo (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @08:19PM (#5219410)

Yeah. He really wanted a pair of Bruno Maglis. Oh, the tragedy of being a gay communist leader. All the really good accessories are made by capitalist pigs.

Re:Matt Dillon? (Score:2, Funny)

by jeremy_hogan ( 587864 ) writes: <(moc.cirepyh) (ta) (nagoh.ymerej)> on Monday February 03, 2003 @08:21PM (#5219436) Homepage

AND a Federal Marshall...

Re:Little explanation? I think there's enough. (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @08:27PM (#5219483)

Writing code is not necessarily easy, but you're not Jesus Christ or anything. I have yet to meet a developer that doesn't make mistakes. Ever.
Hi. I'm Malda. Rob Malda.

This kind of stuff happens (Score:2, Funny)

by Theo de Raadt - OBSD ( 646101 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @09:14PM (#5219763) Homepage

I wouldn't be too worried. Just fork the FreeBSD kernel and create an incompatible OS! No muss, no fuss.

picky picky picky (Score:2, Funny)

by AssFace ( 118098 ) writes: <`moc.liamg' `ta' `77znets'> on Monday February 03, 2003 @09:16PM (#5219777) Homepage Journal

you rape one dead horse and all of the sudden it is considered dirty laundry and you get thrown out of everywhere.

Re:I heard a little about it... (Score:3, Funny)

by Talez ( 468021 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @09:23PM (#5219819)

*mumble* *mumble* excuse me *mumble* *mumble* ok I burn down the CVS now *mumble* *mumble*

All tied up with a red rubber ball? (Score:2, Funny)

by weeboo0104 ( 644849 ) writes: on Monday February 03, 2003 @09:39PM (#5219916) Journal

You have to look at this with a sense of irony.

"It's always sad to have to make these decisions. It's even more difficult to defend them when our hands are tied behind our backs. "

Imagine that! They're into BSD and all tied up! Get it? Get it?

(Isn't FreeBSD an oxymoron?)

Re:dillon leaves the FreeBSD project (Score:2, Funny)

by t0ny ( 590331 ) writes: on Tuesday February 04, 2003 @12:12AM (#5220572)

I'm sticking with AmigaOS

Re: Politiburo (Score:3, Funny)

by ces ( 119879 ) writes: <christopher...stefan#gmail...com> on Tuesday February 04, 2003 @12:22AM (#5220612) Homepage Journal

Well, in this case it would be a pink slip for 5 years of mouthing off to everyone in sight and back-stabbing your co-workers any time they don't agree with you.

In the private sector such behavior usually leads to a promotion into management.

Re:Nice name... (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday February 04, 2003 @12:24AM (#5220623)

You could've banged Winona Ryder too if you had used FreeBSD instead of Linux.

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Good timing (Score:0, Funny)

lead developer? (Score:0, Funny)

little devil! (Score:5, Funny)

Free BSD Dying (Score:0, Funny)

Matt Dillon? (Score:4, Funny)

Politics (Score:2, Funny)

Splitter! (Score:5, Funny)

Wow and actor and a coder (Score:5, Funny)

In other news (Score:4, Funny)

Maybe he didn't comment his code well enough (Score:5, Funny)

Re:well.....bring to MS all FreeBSD programmers... (Score:2, Funny)

Re:little devil! (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Nice name... (Score:4, Funny)

Oh great... SlashTroll Fest! (Score:0, Funny)

Re:Politiburo (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Not trying to be controversial... (Score:5, Funny)

Slashdot ... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Similar to the Net/OpenBSD split (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Politiburo (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Politiburo (Score:5, Funny)

BSD will be stronger than ever! (Score:3, Funny)

Re:well.....bring to MS all FreeBSD programmers... (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Oh great... SlashTroll Fest! (Score:2, Funny)

This is old news. (Score:3, Funny)

Who's next ? (Score:3, Funny)

Re:well..... (Score:2, Funny)

The Matrix Has You (deja vu)... (Score:4, Funny)

It was the cover sheet! (Score:5, Funny)

I heard a little about it... (Score:3, Funny)

An Apple New Employee in the making? (Score:3, Funny)

Yes, that's right. FUD on slashdot... (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Politiburo (Score:5, Funny)

Re:little devil! (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Splitter! (Score:3, Funny)

Can't commit? (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Politics (Score:5, Funny)

Re:It was the cover sheet! (Score:3, Funny)

Seinfeld (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Politiburo (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Matt Dillon? (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Little explanation? I think there's enough. (Score:1, Funny)

This kind of stuff happens (Score:2, Funny)

picky picky picky (Score:2, Funny)

Re:I heard a little about it... (Score:3, Funny)

All tied up with a red rubber ball? (Score:2, Funny)

Re:dillon leaves the FreeBSD project (Score:2, Funny)

Re: Politiburo (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Nice name... (Score:1, Funny)

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