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OpenBSD 3.0 Release, Interview with Theo 307

mvw writes: "Here is an interview with OpenBSD's Theo de Raadt. Interesting is his comment on Soft Updates and the comparison to the rivaling Journaling file systems technology. Further he links to a very interesting paper by some Soft Updates researchers." And although OpenBSD 3.0 has an "official" release date of December 1 for whatever reason, it seems to be available by FTP or CD already. Lots of changes since 2.9.
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OpenBSD 3.0 Release, Interview with Theo

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  • by ^chuck^ ( 131444 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @02:52PM (#2632259) Homepage Journal
    sigh, its been well explained that you don't need a journaling filesystem to be safe with transfering data to the harddrive. In fact, if you're clever enough, you can even get away safely writing without having to hold the entire system up (hence, softupdates). If you actually look through the interview, you'll find Theo actually pointing you to resources that quite seriously make this point (journaling not needed).
    take a look at this [theaimsgroup.com]
    it can be frustrating being right, all journaling really seems to do is attempt to fix the problems ext2fs has by laying another piece of code on top of it, instead of fixing the primary problem, that is that ext2 is broken as far as the BSD hackers are concerned.
    Is waiting for fsck to finish really that much of a problem for you?
  • by greygent ( 523713 ) on Thursday November 29, 2001 @03:26PM (#2632514) Homepage
    > Is waiting for fsck to finish really that much of a problem for you?

    Yes, actually, when you're dealing with servers with 100's of gigs.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29, 2001 @04:22PM (#2632913)
    Arbeit macht frei.

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