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For 2012's U.S. tax season ...

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I've filed the paperwork and sent money
  615 votes / 3%
I've yet to file the paperwork, will be sending money
  1853 votes / 10%
Still working on it; not sure which way it will tip
  2416 votes / 13%
I've filed the paperwork, expect a refund
  1768 votes / 10%
I've filed the paperwork, and gotten a refund already
  3663 votes / 20%
Why should I pay taxes to the U.S.?
  7313 votes / 41%
17628 total votes.
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  • Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
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  • Re:tax dodgers (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 12, 2013 @12:49PM (#43150207)

    The poll titled In the 2012 U.S. presidential election [] had 29% votes for "I am not a US voter", and the latest Thanksgiving activity poll [] had 46% voting for "Having a mostly uneventful and ordinary day", so it wouldn't surprise me if ~30-40% of people who regularly vote on /. aren't US citizens.

  • Spitting nails (Score:4, Interesting)

    by swm (171547) * <> on Tuesday March 12, 2013 @12:55PM (#43150281) Homepage

    There was a time, many years ago, when I filed my own taxes, on paper, using a pencil and a hand calculator. I knew what every number was and how the calculations were done.

    It kept getting more and more complicated and time consuming, until about 10 years ago I finally gave up. Now I plug the numbers into a program and it prints out the forms--correctly, for all I know. Even with a program, it is hugely complex.

    The tax code has to be complex so that there will be places to hide the loopholes for rich people. I don't make enough money to benefit from the loopholes, but I make enough that I have to deal with the complexity. Every year by the time I'm done with it I'm spitting nails.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 12, 2013 @04:15PM (#43152363)

    I have lived and work in both the US and NZ earning about the same $ income. The tax you pay between the two is about the same - all up about 35%-40% of income by the time you add up all the sales taxes / income tax (country+State) / social security tax.

    You get a lot less for your money in the US .

  • Re:Ah tax season (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 12, 2013 @05:06PM (#43152977)

    VAT or any other sales tax hits the poor far harder than the rich.
    Yes the rich buy more shit than the poor. But if you earn £10k a year chances are every penny of that is getting spent, and so getting taxed. If you earn £10 million a year how much are you realistically spending on stuff that will be VAT rated (In the UK basically all consumer goods excluding most food but not property)? £1 mil tops? Most likely far less.
    So you gain a pittance in extra tax from the richest and push those on the edge of poverty straight over that edge.

  • Fucked up tax code (Score:4, Interesting)

    by CanHasDIY (1672858) on Tuesday March 12, 2013 @05:42PM (#43153415) Homepage Journal

    My wife and I both work at least 40 hours a week; annually, we bring in about 70K gross. We both take zero exemptions, and both contribute at least an extra $20/mo to taxes. Own a house, no kids.

    I couldn't tell you exactly what we paid in, but it was a fucking lot; still, this year we owe almost $1500 in taxes.

    My sister-in-law hasn't worked in almost 4 years, was on welfare for 3 of them; her husband made about 40K gross last year. They don't own their home or cars, but do have 2 toddlers, and are preggers with a third.

    They paid in maybe $4000, and will be receiving over $8000 back.

    This tax system is seriously fucked up. I used to wonder why hard working (barely) middle class folks like myself get taxed to hell and back, and lazy teet-suckling POS' like my SiL get fucking paid to not work, but it finally dawned on me: It's casino economics.

    See, if the government gave the wife and I double what we paid in, you know what we would do? Either sit on it, or use it to pay bills and fix our home. But the government (or rather, the people who run it) don't want that; they want us to go spendspendspendspend, and "boost the economy" by wasting money on shit we don't need.

    My SiL, on the other hand, will take that $8000 and spend it like it's on fire, buying consumer electronics, jewelry, et. al. manner of shit.

    In case anyone else was wondering, THAT is why the middle class gets shafted by the tax man, and welfare queens get paid to be welfare queens.

  • by DoninIN (115418) <> on Tuesday March 12, 2013 @06:01PM (#43153603) Homepage
    My friend you need to get someone else to do your taxes for you.
  • Re:Ah tax season (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Archangel Michael (180766) on Tuesday March 12, 2013 @06:21PM (#43153773) Journal

    ALL taxes are regressive. Period. Trying to "soak the rich" is impossible, as tax avoidance games prove. You just target capital productivity and send it to the corner where it will just sit ... protected. Meanwhile the jobs that capital used to fund goes away.

    Case in point, they had a Luxury tax on Super boats (aka Yachts) for a very brief period during the eighties. When the rich stopped buying them, the jobs created by making them went away too. AND it didn't raise any money, it actually caused a decrease in revenue.

    What people do not realize is, that taxing causes unexpected results, and those results do no affect the rich nearly as much as the some would like. But they always affect those that cannot avoid them or are harmed by tangential results, like those described above.

    All taxes are regressive. We just don't know to what extent.

  • by NicBenjamin (2124018) on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @12:17AM (#43156247)

    State forms are quite easy.

    Most use data directly from the Federal form, so if you (or your Federal tax preparer) is using software to do the job the state gets done automatically with the federal form.

    The bitch in Ohio is city tax forms. The problem is that most people live and work in different cities. The work city taxes are automatically withheld, but the resident city isn't. And resident cities have complex rules regarding how much credit they'll give you for a work city. More importantly for the computer-savvy-types on Slashdot, many cities have completely different tax laws but very similar names. Bedford and Bedford Heights use the same ZIP code, which confuses computers who decide which city you're in based on postal code. There's a City of Oakwood and two Villages of Oakwood, all of which charge income tax. None of these municipalities uses the same form (Oakwood City and Bedford proper are independent, Bedford Heights and the Oakwood near Cleveland uses the RITA form, the one in Paulding uses CCA).

    Local control is nice, but it is diametrically opposed to the goal of easy paperwork.

  • by schlachter (862210) on Thursday March 14, 2013 @12:13PM (#43172093)

    While I agree with your post and your statistics, I find it hard to imagine raising a family on $40K/yr and calling it middle class. Middle income no longer affords what we think of as middle class in America.

    At $40K/yr, you're probably living in an apartment, forgoing health/dental care, not taking vacations, not saving anything, trying to make it month to month...and going in debt when unexpected expenses arise.

    More realistically, I think $60K-$100K/yr is the middle class that most of us imagine.

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