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5+6 (Score:5, Informative)
Option 5: Doing work to cover for everyone feasting.
And option 6: Having a mostly uneventful and ordinary day.
Reason: I am not from the USA but I have US-based colleagues. So I'll be doing their work as well during my ordinary day.
Working to cover for the USA (Score:5, Insightful)
The USA thanks you so that we may spend time with our families. The average USA private corporate worker only gets around 7 holiday days off a year. Know that we will gladly cover your holidays as well.
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Indeed. Thanks, war4peace, for covering. And unlike most other first world countries, there is no legally mandated minimum yearly vacation in the US. Some workers may get no vacation at all during the year, so these holidays are a welcome time off.
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Not at all intended to hate on USians (we're all family), but I stopped considering the USA a first world country a while ago... And things like that are some of the reasons why.
tmegapscm
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Erm, isn't that a bit over the top, though? I mean, whatever you think of our work and/or healthcare system(s), we definitely meet the definition as a "highly developed industrialized nation." Maybe you don't like how things are over here and don't consider them to be as good as where you are but there's that and then there are places like Chad.
Thanks again to our international friends who cover for us as we pack ourselves full of carbs! 3
Industrialized Nation - Check
Highly Developed - Errr ... Not so much.
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You HAVE been to Canada, right? You HAVE interacted with Canadians before? Try telling them they're essentially part of the USA and see how far you get. They're a british/french colony, and culturally vastly different from even Seattle, just across the border.
The reason they are so patriotic and display the maple leaf everywhere isn't just because they're proud to be canadian - it's because they don't want people to mistake them
Re:Working to cover for the USA (Score:4, Interesting)
Wow, in the last 10 years I have had +/- 42 paid vacation days per year here in the Netherlands, I am taking 14 to 2013, so I will have +/- 56 next year. :)
I do have to say though, I work in a school and we get +/- 17 more vacation days than the private sector.
Since I work in our IT department, I don't even have to follow all the school holidays and take my vacation in the off season which is cheaper.
We don't have the "sick days" system that you guys have though, if I get sick for 7 weeks, then there will be no consequences.
I guess I am just a lucky guy
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Yeah, because the U.S and the rest of the world are doing so spectacularly :) And FYI, the problems with Europe's economy have nothing to do with people taking too much vacation.
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You'd be hard pressed to find any first-world country that isn't running a deficit.
Re:Working to cover for the USA (Score:4, Insightful)
Explain for me then, why the Aussie economy is currently so strong, when we get mandatory 4 weeks paid leave per year, plus public holidays, long service leave pro-rata after 5 years service, etc?
The reason the US (and Europe) has tanked is due to the banks and wall street fucking the population over, nothing more.
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...and yet they get more done in that shorter amount of time than other countries that don't have such policies...
This is a cliche Europeans like to fool themselves with, and it may be true in grocery stores and restaurants, where Americans like the place to be clean, and like to receive actual service, so more people tend to be employed. This is made possible by the low taxes, which make it affordable to hire people for menial jobs. In Europe, this is simply too expensive, and menial work barely gets done at all. That's why there's garbage and poop in the streets everywhere, and you have to pack your own groceries.
I'v
Re:Working to cover for the USA (Score:4, Interesting)
It's simpler then that. The real flat foots drag down the average productivity.
Europe's higher long term unemployment keeps the worst of their idiots out of the worker pool. Hence higher average productivity (active workers as denominator) but lower productivity per capita.
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This is a cliche Europeans like to fool themselves with, and it may be true in grocery stores and restaurants, where Americans like the place to be clean, and like to receive actual service, so more people tend to be employed. This is made possible by the low taxes, which make it affordable to hire people for menial jobs.
Most supermarkets I use in continental Europe are perfectly clean and well-serviced, but you're right about the taxes. I see supermarkets open late at night in the USA with no customers, and yet it's obviously worth someone's while to keep them open for a handful of people because the staff are barely paid anything at all.
That's why there's garbage and poop in the streets everywhere, and you have to pack your own groceries.
I hate having some incompetent dickhead pack my groceries for me, so I always avoid places that offer to do this. They always do it wrong and end up squasing or breaking stuff. I wish Amer
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Not sure about continental europe but I know we have "24 hour"* tesco supermarkets in the UK. Maybe others too.
* They can't open 24/7 because of sunday trading laws but they do open from 6AM monday to midnight saturday continuously and then open for the maximum legal number of hours on sunday.
Re:Working to cover for the USA (Score:4)
It's not about taxes, it's about values and culture.
You're medical system is vastly superior to ours in the US, in a number of ways.
I'll gladly pay more in taxes to have a social medical system. At least I could start my own business and not worry about my children's health. I know a lot of start ups that dies becasue n they can't afford health care to people with experience.
I know a lot of people who can't go work for a start up becasue they need insurance.
When people talk about health insurance and the economy, they always ignore all the business that don't happen becasue we have insurance tied to jobs.
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No worries :)
I care for my colleagues and they have that time free anyway, they don't depend on me covering for them. But thanks for the nice words.
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Well.....too much vacation time can be a problem, too.
I have 6 weeks paid vacation every year, but sometimes I only manage 5 and have to transfer a week to the next year..
The paperwork involved can be a bitch :-(
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HAHAHA LOL
In my company they expect that you use up at least half your vacation after summer. No saving up and definitely no transfer over to the next year, unless you get an approval from god and the devil.
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Here in Stockholm we'll cover for you guys on Thursday and Friday, then on Sunday it's the Zontar Second Annual Transnational Expat Thanksgiving Feast at my place. Everyone is coming, I think, with the assumption that the second turkey I've ever cooked in my life will turn out as well as the first one did 2 years ago (last year, we went to see my folks in the States). We'll see if their faith in me is justified.
So I guess it's 1+5+6 for me.
And yes, it's true--as someone who has lived and worked all three pl
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and somebody FedEx me some real cranberries! (Nothing wrong with lingon, but they're just not quite the same.)
Can't you buy them? Try a shop for British people, if there is one, as they're a traditional part of a British Christmas meal.
(They don't have fresh ones, but the English Shop in Stockholm claims to have two American cranberry sauces: http://www.englishshop.se/en/search?q=cranberry [englishshop.se] . Personally, I'd try and find some fresh ones.)
Re: 5+6 (Score:2)
No no I prefer the artificial cranberry jelly. That stuff is like crack to me.
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I'll gladly trade you the crappy cranberries for your luscious lingon
There are people in the world other than Americans (Score:4, Informative)
Re:There are people in the world other than Americ (Score:4, Informative)
We are at about 30% [slashdot.org], actually.
According to alexia page rank (Score:2)
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Alexa is probably especially poor at representing slashdot demographics, given that the population here has a strong aversion to running basically anything unnecessary and/or that tracks you.
If this poll [slashdot.org] is at all accurate, then slashdot is 60-70% US based.
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Alexa is probably especially poor at representing slashdot demographics, given that the population here has a strong aversion to running basically anything unnecessary and/or that tracks you.
If this poll [slashdot.org] is at all accurate, then slashdot is 60-70% US based.
I would be very surprised if a poll about US elections did not have a disproportionate number of US residents taking part. I am not sure why American slashdotters would be less likely to use alexia than other slashdotters, and though of course it is possible I would think their figures are probably closer to reality than self-selected poll completers
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Re:There are people in the world other than Americ (Score:5, Informative)
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Insensitive clods! I live in Canada. We had our Thanksgiving last month.
Me too, and I cooked roast beef because I'm tired of turkey dinners.
That was a coup, let's see what I can get away with at Christmas.
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Go Argoooooos! It's going to be a great game!
PS Happy Turkey Day you Yanks! Good luck on Black Friday!
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Black Friday... that's that day when people who've never heard of the Internet go to actual stores to buy things, right?
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Black Friday... that's that day when people who've never heard of the Internet go to actual stores to buy things, right?
Correct. Those who have heard of the internet wait until (Cyber) Monday. Now that it's spread over two different days, the shopping craziness is reduced compared to the pre-internet days.
However, between camera phones and the internet, the inevitable "Jingle All the Way"-style conflicts over in-demand merchandise that show up on YouTube can provide some quality entertainment for those of us watching from the sidelines.
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We're not forgetting...
But Slashdot is a US centric website you know....so, it is natural that US centric topics often are brought up here.
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You insensitive clod!!!
You just lumped in Canadians, and South Americans, in with the USA.
There are other Americans in the world, other than the USA residents....
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Not really. November 22:nd is my birthday so option 5 or 6 would be tragic.
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I picked "quiet and uneventful". My birthday is the 21st, so depending on how that goes things may either be quiet and uneventful or very eventful indeed.
Running 10km (Score:2)
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I'll be running 10km in the morning, which my phone thinks is 890kcal. However, it's probably not a good day for losing weight!
Not kcal - just cal.
Unfortunately, food "calories" ARE actually kilocalories.
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Crap, my comment was typed with my brain on autopilot - my first line is completely wrong.
Just pretend I'm not here...
Re:Running 10km (Score:4, Funny)
I'll be running 10km in the morning, which my phone thinks is 890kcal. However, it's probably not a good day for losing weight!
Not kcal - just cal.
Unfortunately, food "calories" ARE actually kilocalories.
After years of dieting the moral I find is that a wast is a terrible thing to mind.
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I'll be running 10km in the morning, which my phone thinks is 890kcal.
Careful on your run. Mixing metric and imperial like that is a good way to encounter the ground unexpectedly.
huh? (Score:2)
How can "Turkey I cooked" not be a choice?
Anything tastes better when it is deep-fried (Score:2)
Unfortunately, the Deep-Fried Twinkies will be off the menu this year.
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A friend, a chef, decided to test the popular opinion that everything is better with bacon, or with butter, or deep-fried. So he took a stick of butter, wrapped it in bacon, battered it, and dropped it in the deep frier.
The results were... disappointing.
Re:Anything tastes better when it is deep-fried (Score:5, Informative)
A friend, a chef, decided to test the popular opinion that everything is better with bacon, or with butter, or deep-fried. So he took a stick of butter, wrapped it in bacon, battered it, and dropped it in the deep frier.
The results were... disappointing.
Deep fried butter is a staple at many of the US state fairs.
The trick is to take a frozen stick of butter.
As for bacon, you need to pre-fry it before you batter it. Cut a stick of wood just slightly bigger a stick of butter, wrap the bacon around it, and fry it (including three tilts).
Then slide out the wooden stick, slide in a frozen butter stick, dip it in batter, flour and batter again, and deep fry it.
Let it cool slightly, then serve it Nyotaimori style.
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And you guys go on about the mythical Scottish beast, the deep-fried Mars bar? That would be practically a health food by comparison!
Re:Anything tastes better when it is deep-fried (Score:4, Funny)
Once long ago at a fast food place... Where they left me.... in charge. (the fools)
We learned that you can deep fry a cotton towel. And that the result is edible. And tasty.
FIBER!
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And you guys go on about the mythical Scottish beast, the deep-fried Mars bar?
No, but I am trying to find out how to deep-fry whisky.
The challenge is for the alcohol to not catch fire in the fryer nor evaporate, yet avoid using a vessel for holding the whisky that's either inedible or changes the flavour.
I've thought about filling the whisky inside an ice cube, but sealing it is the hard part. Any ideas that would pass an engineering test?
What's the 22nd? (Score:3)
Hope you US-citizens have a good one.
What's Happening .. (Score:3)
on the 22nd of November ?
Was wondering why all the TV shows vanished this week.
Is there some sort of memorial for some people or something ?
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on the 22nd of November ?
Was wondering why all the TV shows vanished this week.
Is there some sort of memorial for some people or something ?
Nothing much. Just a little holiday called Thanksgiving. (Unless you're in Canada, in which case it happened in October. Not sure when Europe celebrates Thanksgiving.)
Re:What's Happening .. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What's Happening .. (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:What's Happening .. (Score:4, Insightful)
As the saying goes, "Australia got the convicts and we got the Puritans. Australia got the better deal."
Cheers,
Dave
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Yeah, Europe. The people who got us into two world wars and gave us Hitler. Godwin for the win!
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on the 22nd of November ?
Was wondering why all the TV shows vanished this week.
Is there some sort of memorial for some people or something ?
Yes. Turkey's all over America will be mourning lost relatives.
Re:What's Happening .. (Score:4, Informative)
Is there some sort of memorial for some people or something ?
Not really. Like most American holidays (e.g. Labor Day, Presidents Day, MLK Day, Memorial Day, etc.), Thanksgiving has lost most meaning beyond an excuse to get together with family and eat a bunch of good food.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. The original meaning has to do with some colonists who were rescued by some of the natives. This being a country of immigrants, most families' histories have about as much to do with the original Thanksgiving as they do with Yom Kippur. If it weren't for the traditional big meal with the family, I suspect Thanksgiving would join May Day on the list of holidays Americans no longer give a shit about.
Re:What's Happening .. (Score:5, Informative)
You're pretty much describing Christmas Day here in the UK. Very little overt religious sentiment, just back to the original solstice celebration.
I am curious though. When did the US start celebrating "Happy Holidays"? It's meaningless. European levels of Christianity are far lower than the US, but we've no problems calling it by its proper name, even though most (including myself) would never worship in a church from one year to another,
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That's just retailers trying to make their big "sales" season last from October through February without a break. Whether this actually works is difficult to prove, since pretty much all major retailers started doing it at more or less the same time, back in the eighties. Initially the "happy holidays" retail season was just late November through early January, but it gets extended at both ends every year. If the trend continues unabated, it'll be y
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Sigh, wasting another couple of minutes of my life replying to an AC.
Yeah. I know about the solstice celebrations. Reread the comment. What about the 'Holidays' question?
Re: northern hemisphere, mid-latitude seasonal celebrations. We still have the sinking of the daylight (Halloween/Nov 5th) and Spring (Easter). What happened to summer/Lammas? It just got subsumed. Wonder why? (damn, another question).
Re:What's Happening .. (Score:4, Insightful)
Because shopkeepers try to be inclusive. There are several holidays that fall around the 25th. Hanukkah, Christmas, Ramadan, Solstice, and who knows what else? So rather than querying someone to find out their holiday (it's not like they have tags or anything), shopkeepers tend to fall back to "Happy Holidays".
So going shopping means you hear "Happy Holidays" more often than anything else. So we mindlessly mimic what we hear and say "Happy Holidays" to one and all. You really have to be thinking to make yourself say "Merry Christmas" or whatever holiday greeting you prefer because you're going against the tide.
[John]
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Ramadan shouldn't be included in your list. It moves back a month almost every year. This year it was in July, next year in July again. Just sayin.
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SNIP
If it weren't for the traditional big meal with the family, I suspect Thanksgiving would join May Day on the list of holidays Americans no longer give a shit about.
The U.S. government decided the day to honor labor should get moved away from May 1st since May Day celebrations were associated with socialists, communists, etc. That's why the U.S. celebrates Labor Day as the first Monday in September.
On the other hand, that leaves May Day open for doing things with virgins and maypoles.
Cheers,
Dave
Turkey day ordinary? (Score:2)
I recall the day in high school that President John Kennedy was assasinated. It also happens to be my birthday. So the day is never ordinary.
I haven't checked, but non-USA citizens probably have no official holiday Thursday. Possibly in their time zones there may be a US football game to watch outside of work time.
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Non-Americans don't generally know about football. They use the word "football", but it's in reference to a different sport that's actually a lot more like soccer than football, albeit with three major differences from soccer: A) it's actually popular (in the countries where it is played); B) instead of just gradeschool kids, they actually have adults play it, some of whom are professional athletes; and C) inst
Loy Kratong (Score:4, Interesting)
November 28 is the Thai holiday "Loy Kratong". It is an ordinary weekday (this year), but in the evening my family and I will go to the park to LOY (float) our KRATONG (flower boat) to give thanks to the Goddess of Waters for another successful year and hope for the future. (Or thanks to Jehovah, or Allah, or Buddha, or Vishnu, or whomever you prefer to thank.)
Tacos de Pescado (Score:4, Informative)
45% (Score:2)
Missing Option (Score:2, Insightful)
I don't live in the USA, you insensitive clod!
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No, it isn't, you can still be USA based and having a normal day. Living in part of the world that doesn't celebrate the event is clearly a separate option.
None of the Above (Score:2)
Foodwise I don't expect anything out of the ordinary. While my office is open (we only close for holidays mentioned in the Torah, plus Labor Day due to an unrelated ethnic celebration making the neighborhood a bit too chaotic and dangerous) I'll be taking the national holiday off.
It'll be my wife's first Thanksgiving in the U.S. so I think we'll get up early and troop all the way over to see the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade (yeah, okay, "all the way over" is like three blocks from our apartment as we liv
Ordinary Day but doing Thanksgiving on Friday (Score:2)
I work (Score:2)
On both the Wednesday and Thursday Night Shift
But I will be able to eat some turkey during the day on Thursday
They might even have some cold turkey leftovers for us at work, provided the PM shift doesn't eat it all.
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Same boat here. Those PM guys are bastards, aren't they?
I do have a friend who's having a Saturday "leftovers" dinner (though he's making a fresh turkey and stuffing, and it's potluck for the rest) which my wife, daughter and I will be attending. So, I'll still get my tryptophan fix. :D
On call and tethered to the house (Score:2)
I'll probably have my normal salad and maybe some baked chicken or hot dogs. Assuming I'm not paged into a problem (got stuck on one that lasted 3 days a couple of years back).
[John]
Having Thanksgiving a different day (Score:2)
I Usually Have A Few "Orphans" Over (Score:2)
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I used to make TurDuckHen. Then I realized the turkey was ruining it. Now I make DuckHen.
Missing Option: Hungover , cleaning up own vomit (Score:2)
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Huh, I've lived here my whole life and never knew that anybody celebrated Thanksgiving Eve.
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RUNNING LIKE HELL! (Score:4, Funny)
Ordinary, Uneventful, yes.. (Score:2)
...but I will still be thankful that this year I have a job, and that my car hasn't pulled a Bluesmobile on me yet. And so, as I dig into my pizza or burger or sushi or whatever it is I have on that day, I will keep that in mind.
As a Brit and a geek... (Score:3)
No Turkeys Involved (Score:4, Insightful)
Feasting and cooking, but no turkeys involved.
Are you referring to the turkey on the table or the turkeys around the table?
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Mmmm... fried turkey! I love living in the south!
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I am having jaw surgery the day before thanksgiving you insensitive clod.
Mmmm.. liquidified turkey.
Jones Soda have, sporadically, had Turkey and Gravy [jonessoda.com] soda. One year, they even had a pack that also included sweetpotatoe soda, pea soda, dinner roll soda - and an antacid soda for the day after.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem they have the special this year.
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pea soda
Sheesh man, now I know why one shouldn't skim through posts when reading. My heart stopped for a moment there... guess what I read...
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Not quite enough said!
Where? What kind of exhibition?
Sounds like a Lego exhibition.
How do they taste?!
Like plastic I would assume.
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Congratulations and best of luck to you and your wife!
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Enjoy it while it lasts.
It ends when we make gambling legal everywhere for everyone.
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"if I get energetic in the next couple of days"
You should try eating meat.
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I used to think Gold Class was awesome, but then I came to Texas and discovered http://drafthouse.com/ [drafthouse.com].