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First NetBSD Bugathon a Success

Posted by timothy on Mon Sep 25, 2006 01:03 PM
from the of-course-it-runs-over-bugs dept.
Daniel de Kok writes "Last weekend the first NetBSD Bugathon weekend was organized by Elad Efrat to handle as many open PRs (problem reports) as possible in a weekend, checking and fixing the bugs that were reported. Although the first Bugathon was not announced widely, it was a success: about 30 developers and 20 users closed around 270 PRs, bringing the number of open PRs down from 4200 to less than 4000. The next Bugathon will take place on 7-8 October, and NetBSD users and developers are invited to help fixing bugs and handling PRs."

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[+] Third NetBSD Hackathon Summary 15 comments
jschauma writes, "The third NetBSD Hackathon was held on Saturday and Sunday, November 25th and 26th, 2006. NetBSD users and developers met on IRC to prepare NetBSD for the upcoming re-branching of NetBSD 4.0. Approximately thirty NetBSD developers and more than 140 NetBSD users joined in on the two days, paying particular attention to improving install documentation and ensuring build stability. A Wiki page as a TODO list was used for the first time, an approach that is likely to be used in future hackathons. All in all, over 200 bugs have been worked on in those two days and while not all of the critical showstoppers could be fixed, valuable progress was made in identifying root causes."
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  • Impressive (Score:3, Interesting)

    by MetalliQaZ (539913) on Monday September 25 2006, @01:11PM (#16188153)
    Thats not bad for 30 devs and 8 hours. Not bad at all.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 25 2006, @01:23PM (#16188359)
    I'm getting tired of the same people who say "fewer bugs" but only really mean "fewer bugs...but only on the x386 or PPC architectures"
    The last few versions of NETBSD has been seriously broken on the VAX architecture
    (and before you say, "well, YOU Have the source...do something about it!"... I have been trying, but some of the bugs are beyond my abilities)

    I would feel much better if NETBSD was just truthful and say "ok, we USED to run on a bunch of different architectures, but we don't anymore"
    We keep getting the high-and-mighty "NETBSD runs on 40 different platforms"...NO IT DOES NOT.

    It's like saying I speak English, French, Spanish, Russian, and German... my mother tounge is English...I took French in high school. I know a smattering of Spanish from watching TV. I took one year of Russian & German in University.
    Realisticly, I only speak English.
    Realisticly, NETBSD only runs properly on about ten platforms, not 40
  • What kind of bugs? (Score:1, Flamebait)

    I'm trying to think of funny jokes about the types of bugs you find on a corpse, but they just aren't coming. In seriousness, though, what kind of bugs do the remaining 4,000 comprise? Are these along the lines of translation errors in i18n man pages, or kernel dumps on SCSI RAID systems?

    P.S. FreeBSD for the win.

    • Re:What kind of bugs? (Score:4, Informative)

      by hawicz (449905) on Monday September 25 2006, @05:29PM (#16192547)
      A fair number of those are bugs for other OSes, due to having pkgsrc issues included in the same bug database. pkgsrc runs on a dozen different platforms so the bug database ends up with a lot of issues not directly relevant to NetBSD. Right now, there are 1233 open bugs relating to pkgsrc, many of which are non-NetBSD issues.

      As for the classification of other bugs, you can check out http://www.netbsd.org/Gnats/ [netbsd.org] for a table of how those are distributed. Quite a few are specific to just a single port.
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  • Now I use OpenBSD (Score:1, Troll)

    by bhima (46039) <Bhima.Pandava@gmai[ ]om ['l.c' in gap]> on Monday September 25 2006, @02:08PM (#16189029)
    I used to NetBSD on a cobalt qube 2 but honestly I got sick of not being able to do things that I should have been able to do easily.

    Now I do OpenBSD on a low power AMD chip and I don't run into those dead ends... "that doesn't work"
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  • Of course it was a success (Score:4, Insightful)

    by RLiegh (247921) * on Monday September 25 2006, @03:27PM (#16190605)
    (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Sunday July 29, @04:31PM)
    ...bugs thrive on corpses! :p

    Seriously, though; glad to see they had a good turn out for it. Hopefully this will put to rest some of the "NetBSD is irrelevent" crap that's been floating around recently. Particularly since most of the hype appears to merely be sour grapes from people who were on the wrong side of a power struggle and are now trying to tear down the project (as opposed to anyone with a valid beef).

    30 developers isn't that bad, really. Not up to FreeBSD numbers, certainly; but it's a good start. Particularly given that this event wasn't really publicised in any real way (there was nothing here, or on the front page of netbsd.org about it in advance).

    Sidenote to the guy having problems with his VAX: problems with one archetetcture (sp?) don't indicate that NetBSD is becoming x86-centric; they just indicate that maybe -just maybe- -what with NetBSD being contributer oriented and all- that the bugs just might be beyond the -VAX team's abilities as well.
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  • Re:Why NetBSD? (Score:2)

    by Nimrangul (599578) on Monday September 25 2006, @07:16PM (#16193645)
    (Last Journal: Tuesday October 03 2006, @07:58PM)
    The Linux kernel is available on more platforms than NetBSD (it has been worked on by many more companies with more code being contributed back, the GPl has helped that), OpenBSD is more stably portable than NetBSD (the difference between cross-compliling everything and taking the time to actually check if it works makes a big differnce), FreeBSD and NetBSD's performance about three years ago were pretty close, you'd need to run some tests to determine if they are actually close anymore, so to my mind there is little that only NetBSD does right or better than others, there are things like it's Summer of Code stuff which is mildly interesting, like a BSD PGP and attempts at HFS and HFS+ support for NetBSD, but that stuff isn't really production ready.

    If nothing more, it is the most portable of the BSDs and a reasonable middle ground of performance and security, not really looking Bowie knife, but more Jack knife. It does leave it reasonable for companies that are looking to embed, but not wanting to contribute back.

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  • Re:Why NetBSD? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by LandruBek (792512) on Monday September 25 2006, @10:54PM (#16195207)
    I've not looked at the codebase, but the hearsay is that NetBSD has cleaner, nicer code than the other BSDs, and because of that it is supposedly more portable than FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
    HTH.
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    • Not at all. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday September 26 2006, @01:01PM
  • Re:Why NetBSD? (Score:3, Interesting)

    Alot of FreeBSD users such as myself switched to Linux or NetBSD after the 5.x fiasco. All the recent benchmarks put NetBSD higher performance wise than Freebsd. Perhaps 6.x changes this?

    Also NetBSD can handle really slow and old hardware well. Its used for embedded appliances like Sony's PSP. It scales well with little overhead.

    Science buffs like the BSD's better than Linux because its easier to profile apps as Linux does many more things under the hood. If I had to build an appliance to measure something for my PHD I would chose NetBSD.
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